Custom Carbide Sanding Mandrels

Lee, you can PM me all you want, I have said my piece and stand by it. And I will keep it in the open as that's where it started. As stated above, You cannot claim to be the victim and it has nothing to do with how much you have contributed to the industry. If you had a moral compass, you would understand this. You can't be a rude Bully and not get taken to task for it. You don't like the responses, stop being a horse's a** or go start another forum board elsewhere and "contribute to the industry" on that one. Right now, your only embarassing your self, and taking away any respect people may have had for you for "your contributions"

I do not need to continue this, as your actions, responses, behavoir, etc, speak volumes more than mine could ever do. You just keep proving over and over that mine and other's statements are accurate, enough said.
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
Lee, why do you have to be so combative? For you to respond in that nasty way after YOU barge into Someone elses ad for THEIR product with your own product, is WRONG and NOT acceptible and Then you expect no one to say how rude and 'tacky' that was? If this happened to you, You would have alot of misspelled words to say about it! You cannot claim to be the victim this time, and it has no relationship to "how much you have helped the industry"
Just because you are a paying advertiser doesn't give you the right to step on other member's ad postings, Get your own!!!!
I think it's time for a moderator to finally step in and set a few things straight with you and your total disregard of proper conduct! I have defended you and your product recently in another thread, but that won't happen again, now that your true colors are fully displayed. You Sir,and I use that term VERY loosely, need to learn how to play nicely in the sandbox that we all SHARE, and start respecting other people's ad's or get out and find another sandbox!! As to your avitar...well 2 things, 1- it shows how childish you are, and 2- could be construed as a thinly veiled thr**t which shouldn't be tolerated either.:mad:
That's my $2 worth,
Dave
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I totally agree with everything dave 38 said....I received a pm from the wannabe bully, too.

brianna needs a vacation to the "isle of reality" . people who want customers don't react negatively everytime somebody has a problem with them.

maybe his 3 or 4 satisfied customers will chime in and give him a pat on the back...lol :p
 
d_flash said:
I totally agree with everything dave 38 said....I received a pm from the wannabe bully, too.

brianna needs a vacation to the "isle of reality" . people who want customers don't react negatively everytime somebody has a problem with them.

maybe his 3 or 4 satisfied customers will chime in and give him a pat on the back...lol :p
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I've been reading the comments on this thread and many others in the last few months without responding cause it's none of my business. I'm interested in cue building and repair and that's it.

I've met Lee 6 or 8 different times and he was always congenial with me, answered questions and my purchases, although few, met expectations. He has always gave me the impression of more of a timid person rather than an aggressive one. I've also met KJ once. He was sharing a booth with Lee at the DCC. He also was congenial and now I've bought some stuff from him also that have met my expectations. It's very apparent that they've had a falling out. Mr. Failes also apparently has had a falling out with Lee after working for him.

Now it seems that almost every time Lee posts about his products he gets slammed by one or both of these two one time friends. Exactly why, of coarse, is their business.

I agree that Lee's spelling, punctuation, and sometimes sales ethics could use some refinement. I, myself, have a 100% money back guarantee on my cues and repair. Others might not but it is their prerogative. These forums are great for pointing out good dealers and bad dealers. It gives your friends (other AZB members) a heads-up before a bad deal is made so that they can take a second look before committing. I really don't feel that it is fair to slam someone every time they show their products though over some apparent misunderstanding.

I, agree that in this thread, Lee was wrong for pushing his product in a thread conversing about someone Else's product but I'm not really happy the way the thread carried out after that. Lee, apparently frustrated over previous attacks, came back at KJ, also apparently over something on Seybert's web site. I can see Lee wanting to stand up for himself but I do believe this was the wrong time to do it as, I believe, he was in the wrong for inserting his sales pitch in this thread. I also do not believe in the least that Lee is threatening KJ. KJ is bigger and in better shape than Lee to start with. I think people are getting the impression that Lee is threatening because of the avatar he has posted with his replies. He has had that for awhile now after explaining that that is some friend of his who is an actor on the Soprano's and may be at his booth at the U.S. Open.

Just my two cents worth for what ever it's worth.

Dick
 
If Lee was even slightly apologetic for his actions I would be less concerned about pointing things out...BUT this is how Lee is...he's nice to your face if your wallet is out...or your making cues for him because lacks the skills on his own...he's always had someone doing his work for him...just ask Jerry Powers how helpless he is...lolz

If anyone wants to do any business with this guy you're on your own...I'm walking away once and for all on this subject and focusing my energies on cuemaking...Peace
 
I'm at a loss as to what Lee is referring to that I'm supposed to have said on Seybert's website. I've never mentioned his name nor made any reference to him so if anyone can tell me what he's talking about, including you Lee, I'd greatly appreciate it. I WAS a contributing administrator on the Seybert's site until a week ago when I resigned my position as administrator due to a conflict of interests and I haven't posted on there since. Any help ?
 
on seyberts web page you advertize your cues and there you stated you have been making cues for over 18 years thats what i was refering to i am keeping my thoughts private and not posting them on here i will deal with these negitive post from these 2 off of this forum and not bother anyone on here i posted the sanding arbors to give someone a choice and price differance not to cause problems
 
contacting my lawyer
monday i will take legal action for slander seeyou in court

PM from Lee...LOLz...bring it punk....
 
I wasn't gonna say anything and probably should not but...
Ya know every time not sometimes every time that there is a product introduced that Brianna Products also sells and there is controversy. Lee says " i posted the sanding arbors to give someone a choice and price difference not to cause problems" Competition is fine I don't care. Like I sad earlier I will let the product do the talking. I am confident that the cues and products I produce will do the advertising for me. Word of mouth is the best advertiser. That being said I would appreciate that if any one has a problem be it personal or business related use the private messaging. That is what it is there for, to keep things better said not in public not in public. This is all I will say on this matter. Conduct yourselves like adults....
 
d_flash said:
I totally agree with everything dave 38 said....I received a pm from the wannabe bully, too.

brianna needs a vacation to the "isle of reality" . people who want customers don't react negatively everytime somebody has a problem with them.

maybe his 3 or 4 satisfied customers will chime in and give him a pat on the back...lol :p
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i have to agree with dick this time.

lee shouldnt have posted his products in another persons thread
however ive delt with him so many times i cant se how things can go that bad. lee always go out of the way to make me happy. even sending me fee things for putting him in touch with a potential buyer.

also from what i understand lee lives just down the street from seyberts so there is some obv things none of us know about going on here

lee has never been mean or even bad mouthed anyone. he is a very happy funny guy not aggressive. we hand out mulitple times a year.

no one is perfect at everything. everyone needs direction sometimes

however, i think d flash has it backwards. there are the same 2 or 3 ppl that attack him on a reg basis. we learned this in the last thread and all of you ran away when you were overwhelmed with good comments.
 
I'm not looking to stir the pot more, I would just like to better explain my responses earlier.
First - People have made an oops before, and usually apologize once it is pointed out. What really upset me was quite a few members pointed out that is was 'not right' to post his ad like he did, and his reaction wasn't to apologize to RocketQ, but to singled out only one member out of the 4-5 of them that posted, and attack him, for whatever personal reasons. I then made my post and he then pm'ed me to bi**h me out and tell me to mind my own business, and how much he has contributed to the industry and I haven't. I don't believe his 'contributions' excuse his behavior nor serve as a substitute for an apology to RocketQ. I believe that RocketQ deserves an apology from Lee either privately, or publicly. It could go a long way to improving Lee's image, rather than to just leave it as is. Just My Humble Honest Opinion

Second - I haven't and will not trash or put down his products as I haven't had a problem with the ones I have purchased in the past. I have also stood up for him in a previous post not so long ago when people were bashing him relentlesly for what appeared to be personal vendetta's. As it is, I was just on his site this past Thursday (before all this) looking at buying these same mandrels as I cannot afford the carbide ones yet.

Even some of his supporters have stated that what he did was inappropriate, and still he doesn't apologize for his error. His only comment about this is that he was trying to offer a choice. Being in business as long as he has, I believe he knows how to offer a choice for buyers without going about it the way he did, he just doesn't seem to care. He wants respect, but seems a little short on giving it. Instead, when questioned, or corrected, he goes on the attack. This isn't the first time that he has acted this way either.

I have tried to only address his apparent lack of remorse for his misdeed and his disregard for proper etiquette and respect when people tried to point it out. I have tried not to trash him or his products. People form opinions of each other by how they conduct themselves and how they treat others, and I expect to be treated by others, the same way I treat them. If I act like a jerk to someone, I do expect to be treated that way, therefore I don't intentionally act that way to someone. If it happens, I apologize for my behavior once it's pointed out.
His behavior in this has made me realize that no matter how great his product is, I don't need it that badly, to deal with someone that has such apparent disregard for others feelings. I will just continue saving up for the carbide mandrels, and eventually, I'll have them.
Dave
 
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