Cutting up the pot

Dave_C

Dave_C

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Am I the only one who thinks that splitting the pot at the end is the lamest thing ever done?

I sincerely wish there was some sort of sanctioning body in pool that could levy fines or ban players for doing this sort of thing. It's no different than a boxer taking a dive or a ball player intentionally duffing a play. In THOSE sports, the players involved would essentially be ending their career! I fully understand that pool is different from those in that there is no "official" body, but it splitting a pot shows how little the player cares about the competition itself.

I can assure you that if I find myself at the finals in ANY tourney anywhere, and my opponent asks to split the pot, he will be met with silence.

Opinions? Views?
 
I can understand that in bigger tournaments..

Played a small tournament a few years ago, got to the hot seat and a guy I had played a good match with earlier came back and got me the first set, so we had one more to go.. it was 1am and I had to work in the morning. After 6+ hours of being there for the tournament, damn skippy I split it with him at about $35 or so each.. I'm not sticking around til closing for less than minimum wage, not when I gotta work for a real paycheck the next day.

If people keep chopping, maybe they shouldn't make the payouts so top-heavy.
 
When the two finalist came to me and told me they were 'chopping' first and second money, I asked 'does that mean I get to keep the added money?"

I would rather the second place player tell me he forfeits and him leave with 2nd place money. Then out in the parking lot, the two can split it any way they wish.

But it seems to be 'common practice' in weekly and monthly tournaments. Even some regional tournaments there are plenty of 'savers and chops'
 
Dave_C said:
Am I the only one who thinks that splitting the pot at the end is the lamest thing ever done?

I sincerely wish there was some sort of sanctioning body in pool that could levy fines or ban players for doing this sort of thing. It's no different than a boxer taking a dive or a ball player intentionally duffing a play. In THOSE sports, the players involved would essentially be ending their career! I fully understand that pool is different from those in that there is no "official" body, but it splitting a pot shows how little the player cares about the competition itself.

I can assure you that if I find myself at the finals in ANY tourney anywhere, and my opponent asks to split the pot, he will be met with silence.

Opinions? Views?
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Agreed! I understand why they do it, but I don't believe in doing things that way, and I wouldn't do it myself.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
When the two finalist came to me and told me they were 'chopping' first and second money, I asked 'does that mean I get to keep the added money?"

I would rather the second place player tell me he forfeits and him leave with 2nd place money. Then out in the parking lot, the two can split it any way they wish.

But it seems to be 'common practice' in weekly and monthly tournaments. Even some regional tournaments there are plenty of 'savers and chops'
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If I ran a tournament, I wouldn't allow it. If they want to split it, they would have to do it on their own. I want to feel like winning the tournament actually meant something, and I don't believe in this sort of practice.
 
If not the split, how 'bout winner take all?

I'm not real keen on splitting 1st and 2nd place cash. But, some weekly tournaments I've been in run a little long. If I have to go to work the next day and I happen to make it to the finals, I'll offer the split. If my opponent declines, then I'll usually offer to play all-or-nothing just to make it worthwhile. My opponents rarely take up this offer either, so I end up playing late and losing sleep more time than not.
 
splitting is like dumping

If the sanctioning bodies would really define a pro player it would help. Amateur players should only be able to win so much money like in golf. Side pots are a joke when buddies buy one of them and let others buy them . Then let their guy go and chop the pot .no one should be allowed to split play or forfeit .
 
mantis99 said:
If I ran a tournament, I wouldn't allow it. If they want to split it, they would have to do it on their own. I want to feel like winning the tournament actually meant something, and I don't believe in this sort of practice.
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Where's the line? Whether they tell the TD or not, there is still collusion between the 2 players to change the tourney payout.

I won't say I like the split, but they have earned the right to the $ and can do whatever they want with it. Given the risk/reward of tourney paydays, I can see the player's feeling of urgency. I know of one BIG winner who gave away 25% of his payday in savers over the last couple rounds...

That said, this is without respect to the effect on calcuttas. If I bought a player who made an agreement with another at the end of an event, I'd be one pissed off.
 
it seems most are gainst the split unless they are involved and then it's ok to split. It's either one or the other. I used to make players mad because I would never split. I did this mainly because the railbirds would give the owner such a hard time when a split took place. In other words the pool fans or spectators would voice their opinion and the owner would listen because lets face it: pool players don't spend as much money as the guys that put the Buds down. it's just good business sense to not allow splits period.
 
Black-Balled said:
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That said, this is without respect to the effect on calcuttas. If I bought a player who made an agreement with another at the end of an event, I'd be one pissed off.
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Exactly. I understand why it is done and personally I don't care for it. But I also don't think you can really stop it. If you made it illegal it would still happen but in a more "under the table" sort of way.
 
Justadub..

I think you are from Maine. That water could be Maine water. That could be Maine coastline. The lady is main no matter where she is from but I don't think that is a Maine lobster. Tell me where I'm wrong.


Jo
 
Don't think you need an sactioning body, all the tournament director has to say at the beginning is, "if you split the cash, you will be banned from all my tournaments". Player will be either more descrete when they do split or it will never happen at all.
 
Jodacus said:
Justadub..

I think you are from Maine. That water could be Maine water. That could be Maine coastline. The lady is main no matter where she is from but I don't think that is a Maine lobster. Tell me where I'm wrong.


Jo
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You're not wrong. :D

Long story about how that pic came about, but it's the thought.... Though I've answered this kind of question more than a few times. :p
 
When you get them down to 8 places pay them off for the tournament,that will be their saver.then the 8 play for the finals.1st and 3rd get paid,2nd and the rest get nothing.let them do all of their deals and moves from there.1st place has to be won to get paid and the hot seat has value,3rd got paid and 2nd has nothing unless he wins his next match.let them chop up 1st place money.



bill
 
Marie's husband said:
That is a good idea, but lets put more of a twist to it.....Cut them both checks for the second place prize money and then send the winner the check for the difference.....
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I like that

I understand the split and am ok with it, most of these guys are friends and understand that on any given day either can win based on the roll of the break.

Equal food on the table amoung friends is ok, they still play to win either way. The split and play is much better than a dump and split in my book
 
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