Daily puzzle, beat SVB!

Can someone post a pic of the set up?

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STRANGE,,,couldn’t send it from Safari...but FireFox handled it
 
CB close to 10B. 5B in top right corner with top left english to get position on 6B.

6B in top left corner with top right english to come to bottom rail.

8B in top right corner.

Just did it 3 times. Twice it went as above.

1 time I came up short on the 6B and went 2 rails (short, long) and got same position on the 8B
 
I think that’s the obvious choice ( although I’d go 2 cushions to get on the 8 ). I don’t hate the idea of bumping the 8 though. I think most pros wouldnt bump it hill hill. Some would though. This puzzle is from a game I lost ( won the match though ). I made the 5 and for some stupid reason froze him behind the 6. He kicked in the 10 three rails and won the game. That was annoying. I was an idiot for playing a safety with an open table like that. Never let them back at the table if there’s an out.



So true. I see players do this all the time!!! If there's an out I'm taking it, unless it's lower percentage than a solid lockup where the guy has nearly zero chance of even getting a hit.

In this situation I like pt109's play to pocket the 5 and nudge the 8 free on my way toward the 6. If I felt confident I'd do it that way. But I'd say for a billion I might be a little timid, afraid of hitting the 8 too full and screwing up my shot on the 6. So I'd probably play the 5 in the nearest corner and bring the cb two rails (zigzag) to lay it close to the end rail for the 6. If I don't like my angle on the six for a zigzag shot to the 8 (putting whitey somewhere between the 1st and second diamond down from the side pocket), I'd play a saftety behind the 6, moving it closer to the pocket and using the 6 and 8 as blockers.
 
So true. I see players do this all the time!!! If there's an out I'm taking it, unless it's lower percentage than a solid lockup where the guy has nearly zero chance of even getting a hit.

In this situation I like pt109's play to pocket the 5 and nudge the 8 free on my way toward the 6. If I felt confident I'd do it that way. But I'd say for a billion I might be a little timid, afraid of hitting the 8 too full and screwing up my shot on the 6. So I'd probably play the 5 in the nearest corner and bring the cb two rails (zigzag) to lay it close to the end rail for the 6. If I don't like my angle on the six for a zigzag shot to the 8 (putting whitey somewhere between the 1st and second diamond down from the side pocket), I'd play a saftety behind the 6, moving it closer to the pocket and using the 6 and 8 as blockers.

I think you’re right. Surprised nobody was crazy enough to use 5 as key and load up with inside...I still wouldnt bump the 8 though. Things that can go wrong under pressure:
1. You miss the 8 completely and scratch on the corner
2. You brush the 8 and it freezes to the 10- now it has no pocket and you’re forced to play safe
3. You hit the 8 too full and it drops in the side
4. You miss this harder shot worrying about 1-3 and what you’d do with the billion dollars
5. you hit the 8 too full and hook yourself behind the 8
6. You hit the 8 on the wrong side too hard and it drops in the corner
7. you scratch off the 8 into the corner
8. you miss the 8 completely and hit the 10 instead which bounces of the rail and hooks you.

Now before you say 1-8 is for beginners a friendly reminder the lion missed a straight shot on the 9. Twice. This hill hill is for a billion dollars.
 
You’re playing Shane Van Boening. 8-ball. Hill hill for a billion dollars.

This would be my plan:

1. Tell Shane you got really bad diarrhea.

2. Check the bathroom for window large enough to slip out.

3. Get the motor of your car running

4. Go back and shoot whatever comes in your mind.

5. Miscue and hit the 8-ball first.

6. Diarrhea again. Window. Car. Rubber.
 
play the 5 in the closet corner 1 rail to about the the spot on the headstring. One or two rails back to to play the 8 in the same pocket as the 5.

Like Hawaiian said, I'm not bumping the 8 out. It blocks his stripe if I don't fall on the 6 right and getting shape to the correct side of the 8 from this layout really isnt that hard.

see my disclaimer.
 
Easy, 6 ball corner pocket, draw back three rails to middle diamond (or a touch below) for shape on the 5, after that, follow up two rails, 8 in the corner, show me the money!
 
I think there are 2 flaws in all of the answers.

1) You are playing SVB and you miraculously got to a hill-hill situation.

2) You are playing for a billion $.

Answers:
1) Few of us will ever be in the situation to play SVB. Even fewer - meaning practically none - will reach the hill.

2) Ok, the billion was a huge exaggeration. I know that it rather meant a significant amount of money. Let's just say $ 10k which is enough most people would not like to lose. How did we get there? Well, the only situation I could imagine is something like getting 9 out of 12 games on the wire or the like. Else we would not have to pot all balls.

With all these assumptions I think even an ice-cold regular player would be shivering and trembling knowing he'd be about to beat SVB. Which might well reduce his game to 20% of what it is normally. So, even potting the easy 5-ball might not succeed due to a "nervous breakdown". A fancier draw from 2 or more rails is almost bound to fail in such a situation, unless your name is Orcullo (or one of the other top 100 players in the world). In the end I believe once you take SVB and the significant $ amount out of the equation all suggestions could be right.
 
What 9 ball?

He’s just using the “balls already made” on the bottom of the table graphic as reference points. I had to look back once because when I first saw it I somehow saw the 5 as another stripe and thought...BIH here, how is this a puzzle?
 
I think we all agree that you don’t bump the eight. Tempting, I know, but a greedy play that can land you in trouble. Let’s just say you clip the 8 but the cue goes directly toward the six. Now you have a thin cut on the six and have to lose a little control of whitey. Bad call. Let’s say you misjudge and hit the 10 pretty full, 8 could get between cue and 8. Really bad call. Plus the 10 may come back to tie up the eight or block a pocket.

I think a good lesson is how Tiger played The Masters this weekend. He always tried to miss in a good spot. I think that type of thinking can be applied here too.

That being said, I bumping the 8 because I’m shitting my pants and making bad decisions...probably banking it anyway.


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I texted a pro yesterday. Won’t mention his name, his fargo suggests he’s top 50 in the US. He texted back this.

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