Dale Perry cues
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Actually DP cues, IMO hit pretty good. What get's me is that, like you brought-up, his cues are all over the bay.
I have gotten to hit with several of his cues. Jacksonville is not too far from myself, so I'v gotten use to seeing his cues up-close.
Although, I have seen very few of his cues in the many billiard rooms here.
Other than that, they are pretty badass.
-Method
I have gotten to hit with several of his cues. Jacksonville is not too far from myself, so I'v gotten use to seeing his cues up-close.
Although, I have seen very few of his cues in the many billiard rooms here.
Other than that, they are pretty badass.
-Method
As with almost any maker of cues out there, you'll find opinions from both sides of the argument. The same goes for DP cues. One thing I can safely say with confidence though, is that if you're looking for a cue that has any value from the point of view of a resell or investment, DP is not the answer.
dave
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=49663
dave
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=49663
One of the guys that frequents my poolhall bought one off of EBay. I didn't shoot with it, but it is AMAZING looking. He seems to like it quite a bit, and thinks it plays like a MUCH higher priced cue. Whatever that means...?
Question is, do you want to tell everyone that you HAVE a $1K+ cue, or do you want a cue that looks and plays like one for half the $? Not accusing you, it just seems that some peolple want the prestige of owning a super high-end this or that, and since "everyone" knows that the prices on EBay for the DPs, it loses that factor. If Southwest, Joss West, Schon, etc. suddenly put some of their cues on Ebay for half or less the regular asking price those folks mentioned above may steer clear of those cues too. I know that the name Dale Perry doesn't carry the same weight, but man, the one I saw was gorgeous, and I believe the guy when he brags of its play too.
Question is, do you want to tell everyone that you HAVE a $1K+ cue, or do you want a cue that looks and plays like one for half the $? Not accusing you, it just seems that some peolple want the prestige of owning a super high-end this or that, and since "everyone" knows that the prices on EBay for the DPs, it loses that factor. If Southwest, Joss West, Schon, etc. suddenly put some of their cues on Ebay for half or less the regular asking price those folks mentioned above may steer clear of those cues too. I know that the name Dale Perry doesn't carry the same weight, but man, the one I saw was gorgeous, and I believe the guy when he brags of its play too.
If you find a DP that you like as far as looks and the way it plays, then I would suggest going with it. I've never stated that a DP doesn't play as well as cues that cost 2-3 times more. So, from one point of view, if you can find a looker/player with a DP at considerably less than a more expensive cue, then you couldn't ask for more. My opinion has always been that when comparing the numbers that he is pumping out on Ebay..............with the number of cues per year that a higher end custom maker is producing........................there has to be a difference in quality control and the selection of shaft wood.
We cue geeks don't buy a more expensive cue strictly for the bragging rights. Sure, I have actually found/used off the shelf production cues that played as well as any of the higher end cues, but because of difference in numbers of cues that leave a production line or a custom cue makers shop, it's much more likely that the custom cue will not develop any structural problems years to come........................and most of all, the custom cue will still sell for a reasonable price later on when and if the cue geek in question decides to make a change.
I'm not accusing DP of having any structural problems, nor am I saying that they are likely to develop problems. But I will say that at the moment, cue enthusiasts are generally more willing to pay twice as much for certain cues simply because they believe that they are buying into something that won't have problems later on, they feel comfortable with the customer service they will receive, and they can be reassured that their cue will hold a reasonable amount of value over time.
dave
We cue geeks don't buy a more expensive cue strictly for the bragging rights. Sure, I have actually found/used off the shelf production cues that played as well as any of the higher end cues, but because of difference in numbers of cues that leave a production line or a custom cue makers shop, it's much more likely that the custom cue will not develop any structural problems years to come........................and most of all, the custom cue will still sell for a reasonable price later on when and if the cue geek in question decides to make a change.
I'm not accusing DP of having any structural problems, nor am I saying that they are likely to develop problems. But I will say that at the moment, cue enthusiasts are generally more willing to pay twice as much for certain cues simply because they believe that they are buying into something that won't have problems later on, they feel comfortable with the customer service they will receive, and they can be reassured that their cue will hold a reasonable amount of value over time.
dave
that's why I said "seems like SOME people" in my post. 
I have no problem with what anyone buys. Heck, I have a couple of Scotty Cameron putters that I could sell for $3-$4 thou a piece. It's a bit different in that case though....they are pretty much collectors only. If someone would play with those...ha, bye-bye resell. I am also a big believer in the mental factor...if you think it'll shoot better...I just couldn't personally lay down a couple grand for a cue; 1) I suck 2) I don't know ANYTHING about them other than what I read online -I do know golf clubs, so I feel comfy making investments 3) I suck LOL
So, going by a guy I know that is a MUCH better player than I, and actually seeing the cue in person....I was just suggesting that buying one to play (no resell value a given) might work out well for the price.
I have no problem with what anyone buys. Heck, I have a couple of Scotty Cameron putters that I could sell for $3-$4 thou a piece. It's a bit different in that case though....they are pretty much collectors only. If someone would play with those...ha, bye-bye resell. I am also a big believer in the mental factor...if you think it'll shoot better...I just couldn't personally lay down a couple grand for a cue; 1) I suck 2) I don't know ANYTHING about them other than what I read online -I do know golf clubs, so I feel comfy making investments 3) I suck LOL So, going by a guy I know that is a MUCH better player than I, and actually seeing the cue in person....I was just suggesting that buying one to play (no resell value a given) might work out well for the price.
I do not care about resale. I just want a cue that hits well. I amnot interested in paying a lot for the looks of a cue either. I am more intereseted in the idea that his move onto ebay may have brought down the price of a quality cue, and may now present more value overall. I currently play with a basic "players" cue. I know that is not of the greatest quality, but I wonder if a more expensive cue will really make me play any better. Just interested in playability.
mantis99 said:
Dale Perry cues are probably the best cue, for the money, of any cue built in the USA. They are built good, play good and look good. Their only drawback is they have no resale value but what cue in that price range does? Dale's cues at one time were selling for much more money but as I understand it he bought a whole bunch of new high tech equipment and now must really push a lot of cues to pay for such equipment. These cues are as fancy as Liccasi's (Spelling) about the same price as Licassi's but about 10 times the cue in my opinion.
Dick
check with zn418 he had a nice dale perry for sale with 2 shafts. Tell him I sent you. Will pm you.mantis99 said:
old vs new
A friend has an old Dale Perry cue and 2 year old Dale Perry cue. Workmanship is night and day. I really like the older cue but am disappointed in the newer cue. Joint sleeve was loose. rough wrap job. I dont think you even get what you paid for. As far as the hit, its subjective of course.
Get a Joss.
A friend has an old Dale Perry cue and 2 year old Dale Perry cue. Workmanship is night and day. I really like the older cue but am disappointed in the newer cue. Joint sleeve was loose. rough wrap job. I dont think you even get what you paid for. As far as the hit, its subjective of course.
Get a Joss.
From what I've seen most of the DP cues on ebay are there from Dale himself. From what I've read Dale has a business background and probably knows alot more than me about selling what you produce to make money and enable you to persue cue making as a livelyhood.
The cues I have seen were nice and played fine. I don't think the fit of the inlays was as perfect as others I have seen, but for the most part they were attractive. Nice cue for the money. I wonder if any problems with the cues were resolved to the owners satisfaction. It seems like Dale would be good in this respect.
The cues I have seen were nice and played fine. I don't think the fit of the inlays was as perfect as others I have seen, but for the most part they were attractive. Nice cue for the money. I wonder if any problems with the cues were resolved to the owners satisfaction. It seems like Dale would be good in this respect.