DAngelo Wrap Machine Wanted

After using both, I can't figure out why someone would prefer the DeAngelo. The aluminum template provided with the Unique jig is the nuts. YMMV.

Martin


Varney Cues said:
Arnot I hear the one by Unique works excellent. Have you considered it?
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jazznpool said:
It comes with a massive oversize steel template!
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Maybe you can help me. Why does one need a "massive oversize steel template"?

The one that comes with the DAngelo Wrap Machine seems perfect to me.

I am still confused - In your first post you mentioned that the template was aluminum. Is it steel or aluminum?
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Maybe you can help me. Why does one need a "massive oversize steel template"?

The one that comes with the DAngelo Wrap Machine seems perfect to me.

I am still confused - In your first post you mentioned that the template was aluminum. Is it steel or aluminum?
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The Dangelo wrap fixture that I use, came with a "steel" template. Not sure what anyone means by massive or oversized.

I think you'll be happy with the fixture thou!

Barry
 
If someone makes really long butt sleeves and really short wrap grooves they might consider the DeAngelo template too long. But even if you make a short wrap it works fine because all alignment is done off the holes in the middle. I have not used the Unique Products one, but the DeAngelo is a good fixture. If I had not developed a fixture that fits onto my lathes I would still be using it.
 
I have never used but had the video on how to use the D'Angelo wrap machine. It apparently has a lever that better locks the cue in place in the machine. A couple of people that I talked to who had the D'Angelo were very happy with it and said they liked it better than the Unique machine because of this feature. They said that Unique's machine holds the cue in place through the use of spring pressure and that the cue could possibly shift while in use. I'm very happy with the Unique that I have but I will say that I did have the cue shift on me at least one time while using it so now I just use a little greater care. You pick up little tricks here and there on each usage.

Dick
 
The Unique template has a handy knob on it. IMO, the Unique jig is a refinement on the DeAngelo. The sliding mechanism on the DeAngelo is not enough for me to prefer it over the Unique. The springs and teflon cradle blocks work fine. Three thumbscrews secure the straight rail on the Unique instead of 5 allen socket head screws on the DeAngelo. After one well experienced cuemaker used my Unique jig, he sold his DeAngelo. Many roads lead to Rome.

Martin



Arnot Wadsworth said:
Maybe you can help me. Why does one need a "massive oversize steel template"?

The one that comes with the DAngelo Wrap Machine seems perfect to me.

I am still confused - In your first post you mentioned that the template was aluminum. Is it steel or aluminum?
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cueman said:
If someone makes really long butt sleeves and really short wrap grooves they might consider the DeAngelo template too long. But even if you make a short wrap it works fine because all alignment is done off the holes in the middle. I have not used the Unique Products one, but the DeAngelo is a good fixture. If I had not developed a fixture that fits onto my lathes I would still be using it.
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Hi Chris: I got the DAngelo Wrap Machine in perfect condition. Thanks for the quick service.

Always a pleasure to do business with you.

Arnot
 
I have the Deangelo and it works well. One thing I've noticed is about 1 out of 5 wraps, I get a little too much wrap left at the A joint. It's like there must have been a tiny bit of slack when I made the cut. Anyone run into this or find a way around it?
 
i run into that often with the D'Angelo.i figured it was something to due with the jig not being set up for parabolic tapered cues.
 
masonh said:
i run into that often with the D'Angelo.i figured it was something to due with the jig not being set up for parabolic tapered cues.
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That problem will happen on any jig and the problem is going to continue unless some steps are taken or alleviated.. By Parabolic taper, I guess you mean that the rate of taper is changing in the handle area. If this is true then this is definitely the cause. If not then the cause is that you don't have the area sanded level. The top bar pinches the wrap between itself and the handle. This eliminates any chance of the leather shifting. If the handle is curving then this "pinching" cannot take place except in 2 places. The rest of the wrap can move around being stretched or pushed away from the plate causing an non-straight cut. After sanding my wrap area and just before installing the wrap I have a straight edge that fits inside the wrap groove so that I can insure that this area is perfectly straight and flat.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
That problem will happen on any jig and the problem is going to continue unless some steps are taken or alleviated.. By Parabolic taper, I guess you mean that the rate of taper is changing in the handle area. If this is true then this is definitely the cause. If not then the cause is that you don't have the area sanded level. The top bar pinches the wrap between itself and the handle. This eliminates any chance of the leather shifting. If the handle is curving then this "pinching" cannot take place except in 2 places. The rest of the wrap can move around being stretched or pushed away from the plate causing an non-straight cut. After sanding my wrap area and just before installing the wrap I have a straight edge that fits inside the wrap groove so that I can insure that this area is perfectly straight and flat.

Dick
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That's a good tip. I tried it a minute ago. The wrap groove was perfect when checked with a straight edge. After the cuts the leather came out perfect as well. Almost too perfect. I about wore out my thumbs pressing the seam together:angry: Came out nice though.
 
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I just pull the leather tight and tape it down before I install the bar and cut it. Just don't pull to hard and rotate the cue. I put a small piece of tape both above and below the wrap channel, then mark it when the first bar is in place, just in case I move it doing the other side.
 
With the DeAngelo fixture if you shove the cue in too tight it can distort the side plates by pushing one end out and cause the angle at one end or the other to cut wrong. Just slide the cue in snug, then put on the seaming guide, and push the locking lever and all should come out near perfect.
 
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