DCC shot clock

gmiller

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The TV table matches involve a lot more people: announcer, camera operators, commentators, ref, communications, not to mention the much larger in person and on-line audience. So there is a good incentive to make sure it doesn't go 4+ hours. It would be great to have all that for all tables, but it's just not practical.
 

Badpenguin

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The TV table matches involve a lot more people: announcer, camera operators, commentators, ref, communications, not to mention the much larger in person and on-line audience. So there is a good incentive to make sure it doesn't go 4+ hours. It would be great to have all that for all tables, but it's just not practical.
Yeah, no, not really, as far as spectators. Most matches I've seen on the TV table had maybe 1/4th of all the seats filled. The ring game was packed, which I don't get. I'm sure the finals will be packed. Maybe 20 people watching the semi finals in the wee hours of the morning.
 

fastone371

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Well then, they shouldn't require it on a single table then. Either get refs and timekeepers for all tables, or quit making them perform differently under 1 unique table/situation.
So then I guess they shouldnt have refs and even a racker on the TV table either because they don't have them on all tables. The TV table doesn't have other tables near it so you never have to wait for someone who may be in your way. It also doesn't have foot traffic nearby because they are usually roped off or sperated from the rest. You get your own seating area when playing on the TV table and its usually the cleanest table with the cleanest balls. Why single out the TV table just for the shot clock, there are all kinds of differences when you play on the TV table. If its really that bad why are you complaining about it rather than the players?? I have never heard an interview where the player who lost said he lost because of the shot clock on the TV table.
 

benny-the-blade

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Yeah, no, not really, as far as spectators. Most matches I've seen on the TV table had maybe 1/4th of all the seats filled. The ring game was packed, which I don't get. I'm sure the finals will be packed. Maybe 20 people watching the semi finals in the wee hours of the morning.
Ring game is always packed. Most of them are sweating their horse.
 

60inchcueguy

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Every pool table should have a shot clock that is strictly enforced. Slow players are just killing the game. I watched Jeremy Seaman play so slow with Fedor Gorst yesterday at the Derby that I thought I was going to fall asleep!

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gmiller

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Every pool table should have a shot clock that is strictly enforced. Slow players are just killing the game. I watched Jeremy Seaman play so slow with Fedor Gorst yesterday at the Derby that I thought I was going to fall asleep!
You can't have a shot clock on tables where you might have to wait on someone at another table to shoot. So, the choice would be 1/3 or 1/4th the total number of tables, or just no shot clock.
 

InsertCleverNameHere

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You can't have a shot clock on tables where you might have to wait on someone at another table to shoot. So, the choice would be 1/3 or 1/4th the total number of tables, or just no shot clock.
Excellent point. So to add a shot clock would mean getting rid of half the tables and we all know that’s impossible. Shot clocks add nearly nothing anyway. Not sure why people are so locked in on them being a necessity. Yes, they will stop folks from stalling but that really and truly only applies to a handful of bad actors anyway.
 

skogstokig

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You can't have a shot clock on tables where you might have to wait on someone at another table to shoot. So, the choice would be 1/3 or 1/4th the total number of tables, or just no shot clock.

never thought about that, great point.
 

60inchcueguy

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I believe you could make it work with the same number of tables. There could be obvious allowances for waiting on some to shoot.
 

dquarasr

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You can't have a shot clock on tables where you might have to wait on someone at another table to shoot. So, the choice would be 1/3 or 1/4th the total number of tables, or just no shot clock.
Or they can do what leagues do in tournaments:

A player can appeal to an official who is called in to monitor a player. After observing, the official can issue a warning to the offending player, then continue to watch and impose a foul if the slow play continues. Of course this involves a judgment call, but if such officials (only a handful or even less are needed) are chosen wisely competitors will likely go along with their presence and rulings.
 

Bob Jewett

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You can't have a shot clock on tables where you might have to wait on someone at another table to shoot. So, the choice would be 1/3 or 1/4th the total number of tables, or just no shot clock.
You can but you need an operator smart enough to know when to pause the clock. If you use a chess clock instead, the seated player needs to pause the clock as necessary.
 
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