Dead even points and veneers
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I will second this motion. I presently have a six pointer with razor sharp points that are dead even in length. Better yet its a keeper as it hits soooo good. One of those models you have to lift weights to thread it together and take it down after a night of shooting. I have never seen another cue thread together that tightly. Between dead even points and tight arse joint, I would call that a quality build.
I'd be much more impressed to see a machine inlay the points myself... When you find one let me know. THAT will be a sight!
Yep, Nemic makes the best traditional full splice cue/blank I have ever held!
Larry
Steve Klein, as does JIm White, and many others make great veneered points. But the tightest and most accurate might be Skip Westons solid wood Veneered prongs... usually across the board they are as good as anyones.... They are solid wood not veneers, and I have to tell you.. if they made blue trees, and more red trees, he would be in business.
JV
JV
I thought Skips we recuts? I thought he didn't use veneers unless it was early on in his career... I know Dennis's are perfect but he uses a technique where there is no seam...
They are not recuts in the sense that you need to mill the pocket, glue in the next piece, turn it down, recut the inlay.. etc.. he just ends up with the same effect with less headaches and perfect positioning.
As you can see in the photo with the two prongs his points are even and almost look fake...
BTW he made one blank with veneers and never did another. The blank is still in his basement. One the positive side I have him contemplating making blanks for resale.. I think he would do extremely well.
Joe
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I wonder if Dennis's technique is similar to a Skips...I always thought Skips were among the best when he was making cues..
First guy I ever saw who spent time really getting the points to line up and also the rings aligned perfectly was Craig Petersen. Just a few of the several reasons I like his cues and work so much.
Amen, I call Mr. Peterson the father of clean miters.
I believe the actual terminology is Milled. In which the process is done out of the forearm. It's one of the 4 disciplines of veneering.
Overlapped, mitered, milled and re-cut.
Overlapped-
Based on everything being flat. Start with a square and continue, side by side, etc. etc.
Mitered-
Glue -x- amount of veneers together, tilt the saw blade or use a miter blade or cutter and glue. The proper angle is the whole key and have sharp inner points.
Milled-
Start with a point or triangle if you will, mill it out consistently to the desired amount of points is achieved, put them in the forearm all at once.
Re-Cuts-
Cut the vee channels and install hard wood points. When dry, turn round, re-index and repeat.
All of the above require absolute patience and concentration.
The most popular cause for points becoming uneven.
Inconsistant pressure gluing veneers.
Drilling, handle attachment and sanding.
Hope some of this helps.
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No, the connoisseurs are there for the sheer beauty of them, it's the players that are there for the sound. There was no "special" wood that is long unobtainable. Stradivari used the same spruce and maple that today's makers use, only today it it is easier to find and usually of a higher quality. Besides, there were hundreds of makers in Italy at the time. They all had access to the same wood, and yet, there is only one Stradivari. He is the Mosconi of fiddle makers.
No, didn't say that. Reverse what your thinking and put the flat side on top, to be milled out.
No, the connoisseurs are there for the sheer beauty of them, it's the players that are there for the sound. There was no "special" wood that is long unobtainable. Stradivari used the same spruce and maple that today's makers use, only today it it is easier to find and usually of a higher quality. Besides, there were hundreds of makers in Italy at the time. They all had access to the same wood, and yet, there is only one Stradivari. He is the Mosconi of fiddle makers.
They actually found that the woods he selected were effected by some tree blight or fungus.
Scientists have been working on replicating that kind of fungal infected wood for instruments.
Similar to recuts except each piece ("v" shaped veneer ) is milled outside of the cue then assembled all at once... Ok. That's what I thought you meant originally..
