Dennis Searing

UGA330 said:
This is the kind of stuff that I am talking about!!!! 1/32000" for builing cues????? It is absurd that anyone would claim that kind of accuracy in building cues. This just goes to show the self promotion. I can assure everyone here that he does not have those kind of tolerances in his cues!!!!!!! Even if he did, what would be the point?????
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He was talking about the runout on the spindle he uses.
He could use a cheaper spindle but if you look at his inlays and rings, the expensive spindle is worth it to him.
Also, when cutting shafts and butts, he wants the joints to match as perfectly as possible. Nothing wrong with that b/c a lot of people still roll the whole cue on the table and when those collars do not match perfectly, people go nuts.
Who's more anal than cuemakers? Cue buyers.
 
UGA330 said:
This is the kind of stuff that I am talking about!!!! 1/32000" for builing cues????? It is absurd that anyone would claim that kind of accuracy in building cues. This just goes to show the self promotion. I can assure everyone here that he does not have those kind of tolerances in his cues!!!!!!! Even if he did, what would be the point?????
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Really?! And just how do you propose to do that? Have you been to Dennis' shop? Have you ever even talked to the man? Have you not seen any of his cues, even the pics relay just how insanely meticulous he is.

As to what would be the point...the point is, Dennis knows. He is a perfectionist...I would venture to guess moreso than any of the customers he builds cues for. HE knows what is going into any given cue, even if others do not.

Finally, since you are obviously talking out the side of your neck, and haven't got a clue....then do not order one. I am not sure if you have an issue with Dennis, his cues, or the people that own, or hope to own one of his cues...at any rate, there is no reason to come and disparage him here. What could you possibly hope to gain?

Lisa
 
UGA330...I do not suffer fools well these days, and didn't much appreciate your PM. While I will not quote it here verbatim, I will address some of your comments:

Yes, I do love to look at cues, what's your point? I have an appreciation for how different cuemakers go about crafting their cues, with regards to materials and construction, as well as their overall design elements. Since I spend time reading in the Ask the Cuemaker section, and count several cuemakers as friends, as well as having been to the shop of one...so far...I would like to think that I have a clue as to what goes into cue construction.

Yeah, all I buy are 'low-end' sneaky petes. :rolleyes: I have owned some very nice cues in the past, one that might even be considered 'high-end'. Since first and foremost I am a player, I am more interested in performance as opposed to 'flash'. With that in mind, I have chosen to attempt to find the best playing cues I possibly can. I have also found that I tend to prefer the way a FULL SPLICE cue plays. My current cues are hardly 'low-end sneaky petes'. These are non-veneered full splice cues made from blanks by the cuemaker, using only the best in materials and exotic woods. If you can find another full splice cue such as mine made of Boise de Rose, I would certainly be interested in seeing it! See if you can get one out of this maker...I highly doubt it! Add to this that this particular maker's cues are held in high regard with players, and are very limited in numbers. But since you're such an expert, surely you know this already.

I am not discounting the work of Mottey, Haley, Ginacue, Mcworter, or Arthur. They do some very fine work. But again, I am a player, and don't need all the 'flash'...just an amazing playing cue. It's the ol' biker addage: Chrome won't get you home.

Yes, Dennis' cues on the secondary are going for some very high dollars...high demand vs low production numbers helps to drive that...but neither of those factors would mean a thing, with regards to secondary pricing, if his reputation for excellence and ultimate playability did not support it.

But I have obviously wasted bandwidth here, as you already know all of the above already. Please do not PM me again. Thank you.

Lisa
 
JoeyInCali said:
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What's with you and PM stalkers? :P :)
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Beats the hell outta me...it's only been lately...and generally from newer members. I guess that they think that a girl could not possibly have an intelligent thought in her head!! :rolleyes: ;) :D

Lisa <=====barefoot, but not pregnant.
 
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You know what

It really seems if you pay close attention that there are lurkers in the forum, perhaps people choosing to have "two" identities and one of those to simply flame and bash. They dont post very often and when they do it is negative about a cuemaker, etc. If you take a look at the post history of some people you will realize this quite clearly.

I always go by the adage most of the time, if you dont have anything nice to say...keep it to yourself.
 
ridewiththewind said:
UGA330...I do not suffer fools well these days, and didn't much appreciate your PM. While I will not quote it here verbatim, I will address some of your comments:

Yes, I do love to look at cues, what's your point? I have an appreciation for how different cuemakers go about crafting their cues, with regards to materials and construction, as well as their overall design elements. Since I spend time reading in the Ask the Cuemaker section, and count several cuemakers as friends, as well as having been to the shop of one...so far...I would like to think that I have a clue as to what goes into cue construction.

Yeah, all I buy are 'low-end' sneaky petes. :rolleyes: I have owned some very nice cues in the past, one that might even be considered 'high-end'. Since first and foremost I am a player, I am more interested in performance as opposed to 'flash'. With that in mind, I have chosen to attempt to find the best playing cues I possibly can. I have also found that I tend to prefer the way a FULL SPLICE cue plays. My current cues are hardly 'low-end sneaky petes'. These are non-veneered full splice cues made from blanks by the cuemaker, using only the best in materials and exotic woods. If you can find another full splice cue such as mine made of Boise de Rose, I would certainly be interested in seeing it! See if you can get one out of this maker...I highly doubt it! Add to this that this particular maker's cues are held in high regard with players, and are very limited in numbers. But since you're such an expert, surely you know this already.

I am not discounting the work of Mottey, Haley, Ginacue, Mcworter, or Arthur. They do some very fine work. But again, I am a player, and don't need all the 'flash'...just an amazing playing cue. It's the ol' biker addage: Chrome won't get you home.

Yes, Dennis' cues on the secondary are going for some very high dollars...high demand vs low production numbers helps to drive that...but neither of those factors would mean a thing, with regards to secondary pricing, if his reputation for excellence and ultimate playability did not support it.

But I have obviously wasted bandwidth here, as you already know all of the above already. Please do not PM me again. Thank you.

Lisa
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I guess you prefer to be called out in public. You made a rude and unnecassary comment to me. I have never been rude or inconsiderate of anyone on here. My comments are my opinion and are not directed toward anyone particular. Just stating that I think Searing cues are overrated and hyped.

At no one time did I ever make a comment about you or anyone else on this site. On top of that I had the courtesy of PM'ing you and telling you that your comments were out of line and unnecessary. So get off your high horse and just read comments for what they are, not personal attacks.
Another thing, would you stop typing an article everytime you make a post. Make your point and move on, no one is interested in your poetic portrayal of your so called knowledge!!!!!!!!!
 
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qbilder said:
Dennis described his inlay machine that he built himself. It is accurate to within 1/32000" !!!!! Most all cuemakers I know measure in 1/1000". I am not even equipped to measure beyond 1/1000". So 1/32000" kinda goes beyond just overkill in quality & precision, it's borderline fanatical. To give an idea of these measurements, a human hair averages 6/1000". If the guy is this anal about decorative inlays, then how anal is he about the rest of the cue & it's performance? Dennis simply took the next step in cuemaking, set a new standard, and it's up to the rest of us builders to catch up or get left behind. Pretty simple stuff.
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I thought I was anal till I had a 5 minute conversation with Dennis about something as simple as a piece of wood.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
I thought I was anal till I had a 5 minute conversation with Dennis about something as simple as a piece of wood.
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Did you ask him about construction? :D
 
UGA330 said:
I have never been rude or inconsiderate of anyone on here. My comments are my opinion and are not directed toward anyone particular. Just stating that I think Searing cues are overrated and hyped.

At no one time did I ever make a comment about you or anyone else on this site.
How about dennis searing? he posts here. Can you give us an example of when DENNIS has "hyped his cues"? Dennis is humble & one of the nicest men on earth who would never talk bad of another cuemaker. Maybe thats why his work is so sought after along with near perfection. He also is constantly trying to improve on what MANY would consider the best cues ever made bar none. What i think is you have nothing better to do than come on here & act like a retard. What is your opinion based on? Is it the fact that you cannot afford one? Maybe you are a cue builder yourself? If so who are you so we can all buy one of your cues, if it plays anything close to a searing count me in for all you have.
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why?

UGA330 is obviously accomplishing his goal of getting a rise out of all of you, using your (I'll throw me in there as well) "our" passion for, and appreciation of, quality. Let this post die, ignore further proddings by UGA on this subject, and he'll quickly bore of the subject, and move on to bigger and better sandboxes where he can dominate the preschool children by pulling their hair and stealing their candy...possibly even eating some sand. IMHO. =)
 
UGA330 said:
Another thing, would you stop typing an article everytime you make a post. Make your point and move on, no one is interested in your poetic portrayal of your so called knowledge!!!!!!!!!
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You do know that you have an Ignore feature, don't you? :rolleyes:
 
I had 1 searing as a player for a short time. I also had a conversation at sbe with dennis a few years back. I wasn't ness impressed with him overall. As a perfectionist myself I can understand. He is very knowledgeable. When I was buying cues I had just about every custom maker under the sun make me a cue. When I met jerry I stopped messing with everyone else. He makes just about as good a cue as possible. I dont buy into 5 year waits and 3500$ for a 4 point hoppe. I've easliy spend 40-50k with jerry over the last few years.
 
dave sutton said:
I had 1 searing as a player for a short time. I also had a conversation at sbe with dennis a few years back. I wasn't ness impressed with him overall. As a perfectionist myself I can understand. He is very knowledgeable. When I was buying cues I had just about every custom maker under the sun make me a cue. When I met jerry I stopped messing with everyone else. He makes just about as good a cue as possible. I dont buy into 5 year waits and 3500$ for a 4 point hoppe. I've easliy spend 40-50k with jerry over the last few years.
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Jerry Mcworter or Olivier?
 
Ah ok.
I owned a lot of cues to play with too and stopped buying when I got my Z.
 
dave sutton said:
I had 1 searing as a player for a short time. I also had a conversation at sbe with dennis a few years back. I wasn't ness impressed with him overall. As a perfectionist myself I can understand. He is very knowledgeable. When I was buying cues I had just about every custom maker under the sun make me a cue. When I met jerry I stopped messing with everyone else. He makes just about as good a cue as possible. I dont buy into 5 year waits and 3500$ for a 4 point hoppe. I've easliy spend 40-50k with jerry over the last few years.
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Well i guess this shows how smart you are financially. How is your resale going?
 
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