You know, as you've probably been reading the discussion before this thread.Pretty sure that was just a lame attempt at sarcasm.
Jeff Livingston
You know, as you've probably been reading the discussion before this thread.Pretty sure that was just a lame attempt at sarcasm.
If players don't get out and start playing again, that'll happen.R.I.P. the DCC
Bacteria-ridden? Is the implication here that your own bacteria is somehow worse for you than someone else's?Resist!!! You could be hit by a bus today....go play...now.
Come here and I'll play you some. You don't even need a bacteria-ridden mask.
Jeff Livingston
Bacteria-ridden? Is the implication here that your own bacteria is somehow worse for you than someone else's?
Pool players really will complain about anything
"I missed that shot because the bacteria was off in here"
Greg had a kinda 'no see/no tell' agreement with the casino. The IGC threatened to arrest any players seen gambling and GS said he'd stop the event and pull his tables the second that happened. Players were told to keep $$ transactions on the down low and things went on as usual.The problem with casinos is they are OCD to the max -- they have very little tolerance for any activity which is not on their list or is not conducted in the time, place, mannner which their rules dictate. This attitude is diametrically opposed to the very wild, free wheeling, environment which made DCC EW so special. And, even if a casino corporation wanted to get on board, the Gaming Commission would never tolerate it. Legal Casino Gambling began in Biloxi in the summer of 1992. Before that, we had the other kind -- the kind that could, and did, get wild and out of control which I lived in and around for about 35 years. For the next 28 years, I lived and worked around legalized casino gambling. I know whereof I speak -- the casino world is a completely different world than the one in which pool gambling developed and flourished. But don't take my word for it, ask anyone else who lives or works in the casino system. Also, please do not get me wrong, I am not being critical of individual casino managers and workers -- they are, as a rule, good folks, many of whom I feel would not mind letting things get loose enough for DCC a la EW to flourish for a week or ten days. However, the hands of these individuals are tied -- constrained by systems (corporate and legal) which will not tolerate any deviation from the norm. Then there is the bigger problem -- money. Casinos make money on gambling, Could we really expect them to to give full run of their facilities (their gaming floor excluded) over to the pool horde and not get their cut from the pool action?
The Stardust events were held while JC was still going on. SD Open was held from '65-'73. Last year for JC was '72 and after the raid Vegas was the place for one more year. From what i've been told it wasn't the same after George died in '69.I think everyone agrees that DCC was modeled on Johnston City which was a no holds barred pool extravaganza. Somewhere in all I have read about Johnston City, I have seen the description "Hustler Jamboree", but forget what it was called, the fact is that by 1972 things had gotten so out of hand that the FBI raided Johnston City and it was moved to Las Vegas where gambling was legal. Legal gambling, however, is regulated and usually referred to as "gaming". However, traditional pool gambling is not "regulated". I do not think the pool world wants or would accept such regulation even if the powers that be would deign to legalize it. (Imagine matching up with a regulation book in hand.) So, an uneasy relationship exists between casinos and traditional pool gambling.
Not quite "as usual" or there would be no complaints. The casino has not even taken the effort to get the IGC to approve "once a year" pari mutuel betting on the ring game for goodness sake. Anyone remember that? While not the essence of DCC, this was one of the many small elements that added to and created the DCC EW experience. (However, would it have surprised anyone if a raid had eventually occurred at the EW?)Greg had a kinda 'no see/no tell' agreement with the casino. The IGC threatened to arrest any players seen gambling and GS said he'd stop the event and pull his tables the second that happened. Players were told to keep $$ transactions on the down low and things went on as usual.
George had "juice" in S. Illinois back then. His brother Paulie did not. JC and the SD were great events while George was alive and went downhill after he died.The Stardust events were held while JC was still going on. SD Open was held from '65-'73. Last year for JC was '72 and after the raid Vegas was the place for one more year. From what i've been told it wasn't the same after George died in '69.