I was hoping there might be a few Diamond reps on here...If not, I'll have to reach out to them before the expoa craftily worded email to Diamond just may net you a better response than is likely here
Look up the vendors that are displaying ..... Contact directly now. Maybe someone can help you.I was hoping there might be a few Diamond reps on here...If not, I'll have to reach out to them before the expo
Thanks for the link...Just sent them an e-mail. I will report back in case someone else may be interestedLook up the vendors that are displaying ..... Contact directly now. Maybe someone can help you.
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If you can’t get one keep checking in with Seybert’s.............. hey nice MustangThanks for the link...Just sent them an e-mail. I will report back in case someone else may be interested
Can contact Manning Cues who is the main Diamond dealer. He can bring you one there.I plan on going to the Super Billiards Expo this year...Anyone know if the Diamond stand will have their ball washers available for sale or better yet on sale?
Working wages have gone up as well.Can contact Manning Cues who is the main Diamond dealer. He can bring you one there.
Like everything else, the price has gone up.
Not as fast as Diamond.Working wages have gone up as well.
Try building one before you determine if they are overcharging or not. I built my own with the help of RKC because I wanted a machine that fit the Gold Crown theme of my room. Parts were around $400 not including wood. If you factor in the wood and the labor/tooling involved in making one you realize pretty quick Diamond isn't getting rich selling ball polishers.Not as fast as Diamond.
Well over 30% increase in 3 years.
One of the clearest examples of a company's price control through dealerships.
No justification for this, other than they can.
You think a light is worth $1500 too?Try building one before you determine if they are overcharging or not. I built my own with the help of RKC because I wanted a machine that fit the Gold Crown theme of my room. Parts were around $400 not including wood. If you factor in the wood and the labor/tooling involved in making one you realize pretty quick Diamond isn't getting rich selling ball polishers.
Well, I made one of those too. Actually, I made two (one for a buddy; custom Gold Crown lights. It's A LOT of work and you have no idea until you get into the project. If I were to make them for sale I would have to charge $2K to make it worth my while so no, I don't think $1,500 is out of line.Y
You think a light is worth $1500 too?
Then don't buy them. Materials costs increase as do all things associated with having a labor force and running a business. Diamond is competitively priced in the marketplace. A brand new Gold Crown is $10K. When they were making them, Brunswick was selling their lights for north of $1K. I personally would never buy a brand new table but those who want it and see value in the purchase, buy, One doesn't have to be "loaded" to see value and value is subjective. It is what it is. I'm not sure why you are so offended by it. Manufacturers can charge what they want so long as they are generating revenue; supply and demand. As a consumer, you can choose to buy elsewhere.Glad you guys are loaded, but 10k for a table and light is asinine. I was buying them 3 years ago for 4000 to 5300.
Yep, suckers made everydayThen don't buy them. Materials costs increase as do all things associated with having a labor force and running a business. Diamond is competitively priced in the marketplace. A brand new Gold Crown is $10K. When they were making them, Brunswick was selling their lights for north of $1K. I personally would never buy a brand new table but those who want it and see value in the purchase, buy, One doesn't have to be "loaded" to see value and value is subjective. It is what it is. I'm not sure why you are so offended by it. Manufacturers can charge what they want so long as they are generating revenue; supply and demand. As a consumer, you can choose to buy elsewhere.
Very nice light. Doing anything for the first time is time consuming. If you built another one, would It take less time? I would say you could reduce you time invested by half.Well, I made one of those too. Actually, I made two (one for a buddy; custom Gold Crown lights. It's A LOT of work and you have no idea until you get into the project. If I were to make them for sale I would have to charge $2K to make it worth my while so no, I don't think $1,500 is out of line.
Ball polisher. I still need to finish the lid; waiting on Formica to do so.
Light:
I built two; still time consuming. Anything hand built like this is going to take some time. I'd have to setup tooling, etc if I was going to offer these for sale which might cut down some of the labor but pool table lights aren't a hot commodity so it would be unlikely to offer them at a much lower price. I'd have to maximize the profit per unit for it to be worthwhile. I certainly could not bank on making a little on a lot because I most likely wouldn't sell a lot. With that, would it even be worthwhile to setup tooling for a low volume project? There's a reason Brunswick doesn't make lights anymore.Very nice light. Doing anything for the first time is time consuming. If you built another one, would It take less time? I would say you could reduce you time invested by half.
Different strokes for different folks. Some people want to have the brand new, latest and greatest setup. I don't see anything wrong with that and don't necessarily see them as suckers. I prefer to buy something old and make it look new again which is what I did with my Gold Crown I. People who buy new could scoff at my preference and call me cheap. Well, there was nothing cheap about restoring my table and I could have written a check for a Diamond but that wasn't what I wanted.Yep, suckers made everyday