Diamond barbox bachelor apartment plan.....

LED lights are a snap to hang in virtually any ceiling, so you should have no trouble with them.

As for the table, another thing to consider is just buying a Valley bar box and a good set of Aramith balls and then having the rails redone by someone like Mark Gregory or Brian White. They can extend the rubber to give you tighter pockets like the Diamond, but even with having the rubber re-done you'd still be thousands less than a Diamond, but the table would play just as good if not better. Obviously Diamonds are great products, but this is a viable option if you want to save a few bucks.
 
DAVE_M said:
Are you really recommending he find another residence, because of a pool table? Maybe my priorities are different.<snip>
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Perhaps I mis-read the OP, I was sure he indicated he was hunting for a new apartment, and a pool table to fit in it. I suggested he widen his search to include houses and/or duplexes. They each have advantages over apartment living, and some disadvantages.

I am reminded of one of my prior apartment residences. I had to acquiesce to a self-important apartment manager when notified of the date and time of the next quasi-legal home invasion, which was to let some minimum wage burglar's assistant into my apartment to spray a mystery liquid here and there, which would supposedly inconvenience a cockroach or two. At that complex, the mystery spray was useless, which I later discovered in a most unpleasant manner.

Unbeknownst to me, the upstairs occupants seldom took out their trash, instead they let bag after bag accumulate throughout all the rooms of their apartment until they overflowed onto their balcony. After awhile, the unsanitary situation went on until flies became maggots, and the maggots ate their fill of the garbage, and emerged from the thin cheap trash bags.

In time, and at just the wrong time, maggots began falling through the cracks in the balcony above, to rain down like nasty squirming gray-white vomitus droplets - right onto my poor unsuspecting dinner - adding more sizzle but unknown flavor to the thick medium rare steaks merrily cooking on the little outdoor hibachi.

Hiss, sizzle, went the maggots which fell on my thick steaks; Spat, pop, went the maggots which missed the steaks and fell onto the hot coals.

Unfortunately, sitting along with me were some friends: the hibachi, me, and friends all situated right under that particular terrible second floor balcony... and suddenly people realized the nasty looking little sizzle-poppers weren't really rice, they weren't really some new type of steak seasoning...

Then suddenly the steaks were forgotten, there were screaming running now-former-friends panic-dashing out into the night with wriggling dead-white maggots tunneling through their hair, but lucky for me I am billiard-ball-bald and the little squirmies fell right off... Yeech no apartment, no never, get outta my waaaayyyy!

Anyway, back to the reply, Yes, if my current home did not have room for a pool table, I would want to move into a home with room for one, if at all feasible.

But if there were several pool halls within a few minutes travel then there would be less urgency for a home table.
 
Looks like staying a bachelor will be a given for a while. That's OK.
I don't know why my wife won't let me put a driving range net in our living room. It has high ceilings.
 
Bbutler said:
LED lights are a snap to hang in virtually any ceiling, so you should have no trouble with them.

As for the table, another thing to consider is just buying a Valley bar box and a good set of Aramith balls and then having the rails redone by someone like Mark Gregory or Brian White. They can extend the rubber to give you tighter pockets like the Diamond, but even with having the rubber re-done you'd still be thousands less than a Diamond, but the table would play just as good if not better. Obviously Diamonds are great products, but this is a viable option if you want to save a few bucks.
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Mark don't do that kind of work on Valley tables....LOL
 
space for your table will be your biggest challenge, proper room size requirements preclude most avg size apartments and houses in my neck of the woods, support beams in big basements can crush your hopes in a sec, lol

factor in the aforementioned rental restrictions and apartment restrictions, etc....it's gonna be a battle

can you post the area you're looking at? I wanna kill some time later play searching for spots that might accomodate a table, ithink the right apartment in the 1500 sq ft range might accomodate a table in the main/living area and/or possibly master bedroom

also, thought bout renting a condo with a billiards room?
 
fathomblue said:
I appreciate all the responses!

While I do understand one thinking I might be putting the cart before the horse, I do have access to a 9-foot Gold Crown at this time. My NAPA teammate/table mechanic has it in his personal pool room at home. He's been seriously thinking about upgrading to a 9' Diamond, so that would be even better.

With that said, my local NAPA league is played exclusively on barboxes. Mostly Diamond. The best local Open tourneys in this area are held on 7' Diamonds in another room.

Now, my Arkansas state tournaments are held on 8' Diamonds, but they don't feel much different to play on than the barboxes do.

As RKC said, TONS of great tourneys around the country are held on the barboxes. I don't think I'd be out of line getting one at all.

Another great point by RKC is that I need to find the Pro Am version, as I have no need for a coin-op.

The reason I figure that I'll be in an apartment is that is moderately rural here, so if you get a house, you're usually stuck doing outside chores and I have no desire to do that again. Been there. Done that.

Right now, I'm trying to find a place with a room that's at least 14x17, if not bigger, while being within my monthly rental budget. Big rooms = big rent.

I AM going to keep an open mind, however, so I'm not discounting any of the above suggestions. Keep 'em coming.
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I think you're doing fine.

I know everyone has an opinion, but let me tell you my experience:

When buying my first house, I was looking for a house that could at least hold a 7' table. End result was that I owned two houses and had that same 7' table for 15+ years.

And I had no problem "moving up" to 9' table tournaments. I've won (not bragging, because I suck) a multitude of State-wide (New England) singles, doubles and team tournaments on 9' tables. I go with what RKC says: hitting balls is the key. Don't get buffalo'd to think you must get a 9' table today.

That being said, today I have a 9' table because I have room. But, it's not because I have plans to be playing many tournaments or getting better.

Freddie <~~~ reality trumps all
 
fathomblue said:
Now, I've lived in a couple of places where I had a pool table, so I know one can tend to get burned out at times, but both situations were junky-to-barely serviceable equipment. I think we all know that this can make a difference in one's enthusiasm to play.
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I have been playing 6-7 days a week now since Jan of 2012 and I am still having fun. I go in my basement and play pool because I have fun, some days I cant wait to get home from work to play. Most important thing I think is not to have to play on junk equipment. I still need some decorating help for my Turkish Prison but the table plays nice and the TV works.
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Justin, My friend has a barbox in his apartment on the second floor.
All he did was put a rug under it to help protect the carpet and put
a tee shirt in each pocket to help with the noise. He hasn't had any
complaints.
Take Care, Carl
 
I think as others have already mentioned, you might be better off with a single dwelling (small house with a big living room).

Sometimes, you can find a house for rent, not much more expensive than an apartment and you won't have to deal with the neighbors complaining about you playing pool at night.

Don't forget, if you talk the right talk and have nothing to hide, some landlords WILL negotiate, if you are the right kind of tenant they are looking for. (Meaning, you pay on time, that you keep their property in the same condition as you received it, that you have a steady job that pays enough to cover the rent, that you let them know immediately and politely when something is not working or about a potential problem but don't complain about a light bulb burning out and other such silly stuff.) Be an open book with your potential landlord and you might score large. Don't forget to check Craig's List for rentals.

JoeyA
 
realkingcobra said:
You don't want the bar box, it's coin operated. You do want the 7ft ProAm as its the same table as the bar box, only without the coin pay system, and over $1,000 cheaper.
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one is single, having an apartment not having a coin-drop...? hum...
 
Texdance said:
Perhaps I mis-read the OP, I was sure he indicated he was hunting for a new apartment, and a pool table to fit in it. I suggested he widen his search to include houses and/or duplexes. They each have advantages over apartment living, and some disadvantages.

I am reminded of one of my prior apartment residences. I had to acquiesce to a self-important apartment manager when notified of the date and time of the next quasi-legal home invasion, which was to let some minimum wage burglar's assistant into my apartment to spray a mystery liquid here and there, which would supposedly inconvenience a cockroach or two. At that complex, the mystery spray was useless, which I later discovered in a most unpleasant manner.

Unbeknownst to me, the upstairs occupants seldom took out their trash, instead they let bag after bag accumulate throughout all the rooms of their apartment until they overflowed onto their balcony. After awhile, the unsanitary situation went on until flies became maggots, and the maggots ate their fill of the garbage, and emerged from the thin cheap trash bags.

In time, and at just the wrong time, maggots began falling through the cracks in the balcony above, to rain down like nasty squirming gray-white vomitus droplets - right onto my poor unsuspecting dinner - adding more sizzle but unknown flavor to the thick medium rare steaks merrily cooking on the little outdoor hibachi.

Hiss, sizzle, went the maggots which fell on my thick steaks; Spat, pop, went the maggots which missed the steaks and fell onto the hot coals.

Unfortunately, sitting along with me were some friends: the hibachi, me, and friends all situated right under that particular terrible second floor balcony... and suddenly people realized the nasty looking little sizzle-poppers weren't really rice, they weren't really some new type of steak seasoning...

Then suddenly the steaks were forgotten, there were screaming running now-former-friends panic-dashing out into the night with wriggling dead-white maggots tunneling through their hair, but lucky for me I am billiard-ball-bald and the little squirmies fell right off... Yeech no apartment, no never, get outta my waaaayyyy!

Anyway, back to the reply, Yes, if my current home did not have room for a pool table, I would want to move into a home with room for one, if at all feasible.

But if there were several pool halls within a few minutes travel then there would be less urgency for a home table.
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Sold!
I'll take one not-apartment please.
 
Buying a table, before the space to put it in, is the very definition of putting the cart before the horse
 
I already have the space to store it for free.

What's the difference? I want to have the table at the time I move into the place.
 
fathomblue said:
I already have the space to store it for free.

What's the difference? I want to have the table at the time I move into the place.
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Tourney used will run you around five nowadays, installed, give or take.

Imo, the best bet would be tourney used with the coin mech. If you ever upgrade to a 9' or anything, you could find a new owner for a coin op diamond in no time. Just set it to free play at the apt and you won't even think about it. With purchasing not a problem, you could feasibly flip it for close to what you pay.
 
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