this Chad fellow sounds like a real twit
AZ9BALLER said:My Diamond Pro-Am Experience
Glen assures me I will have the table Monday and to not give up he is almost there. Well guess what I wait around all day Monday (Presidents Day, I have this day off of work) and no Glen. I call and get no answer and I leave a voice mail. Well around 3pm Glen calls me back and says he is still in Vegas and that they have a lot of rain (flash flooding according to him) and he has not left yet. By the way Vegas is about 7 -8 hours from my house.
Henderson, NV. where your pool table was is 538 miles from your house. How long is that of a drive when you're pulling a 18 foot trailer with a Ranger pickup truck traveling at an average speed of 50 miles per hour? Just to let you know, you are NOT the center of the universe, and what you can drive with your truck or car is not representive of what others can do driving the same course pulling a load, so at least get your facts right!
Glen
PS. By the way, do you remember watching the video of the flooding rain I showed you on my phone? I took that video just to show you how hard it was raining because I knew you were the type of person that wouldn't believe a word I said. Enough on this subject, I'm done with it.
smokeandapancak said:It sounds like Glen has a lot of stuff going on...
Flat tires.. bad tranny... no trailer... long miles.... Holidays away from home.... whew.. sounds tough...
But honestly... all of your problems are, well, your problems and of absoulty no concern of the customer...)outside of the weather, cant do much to help that)... repairs...gas cost...time away from your family.. bad time managment (gas stations closed)... all of that is ON YOU....inherent vices.. part of the job.
Well , actually its not on you persey... ultimatley it falls on Diamond since the customer paid them and not you..
Either way a deal was made and a deal was broken.. (whatever the reason) by no fault of the consumer...
If they take that from your pay ..then once again, its your contract and your problem.. the buyer shouldnt ever even hear that...
Lastly.. if I purchased a 5K dollar table and it showed up on a OPEN trailer on the back of a mini truck that had just drove UMPTEEN MILES...AND there wasnt anybody help get it in the house....... I might be a little bit upset....
BTW what do you do if you go to setup a table at an older persons home or to wife who is surprising her husband? who helps you then ?[/QUOTE
I agree with everything you stated above.
mechanic/player said:Nobody wanted it to go like this, not you,not Diamond, not Glen, but it did and so you three had to work it out. Since you had to let everyone know about it on here as you have, you must have known this will make Diamond and Glenn look bad and you look like the innocent customer.
You have left many of us now wondering about Diamonds and Glenns service , I also have to wonder how big of a tool you were for them to ban you, I'd guess a pretty big one.
mechanic/player said:Nobody wanted it to go like this, not you,not Diamond, not Glen, but it did and so you three had to work it out. Since you had to let everyone know about it on here as you have, you must have known this will make Diamond and Glenn look bad and you look like the innocent customer.
You have left many of us now wondering about Diamonds and Glenns service , I also have to wonder how big of a tool you were for them to ban you, I'd guess a pretty big one.
pip9ball said:Its unfortunate that you had a bad experience with Diamond Billiards. People make mistakes and stuff happens. I agree that the customer service from Diamond could have gone smoother, however, there is no telling what type of conversation you had, except you and Chad.
To all the people who have had bad dealings with Diamond, Im sorry. However, I'd like to share a positive and great experience I had with Chad/Brian from Diamond. I called Chad and placed an order for a 9' Diamond Pro with Dymond woold rails and matching light. I was billed 50% of the table cost as a deposit and was told my table should be ready in 6 weeks. This was great news, however, it prompted me to get a move on finishing my atticI received an e-mail about once every two weeks from Chad letting me know where my table stands in the production process. A month goes by and I get a call from Diamond informing me my table is done and is currently on the road. I was scheduled to be 1st on their list of stops to setup, however I didn't have carpet installed yet. Diamond contacted the contractors and arranged for me to be last on their list to allow me more time to lay down the carpet. Come to find out by the contractors that they had to backtract about 350 miles to isntall my table....but they didn't mind as Diamond agreed to pay them additional compensation for trouble. Diamond mentioned to me that there would be $100 added for each flight of stairs. I two flights of stairs which both had 90 degree bends and was only wide enough for 1 person to walk up. The two contractors and myself managed to maneuver that table up upstairs in about 2 hours. This was a lot of work! After the job was done, they told me that they really appreciated all the help getting the table up the stairs and that they would only charge me for 1 flight of stairs plus $350 to install the table. I gave each of them $300 and didn't bat an eye. None of my walls or hardwood floors were damaged by the slates and the table was perfect! Diamond has done good by me and I'll be a customer for life!
-Phillip
ShelbyDriver said:.
Also, tables can ride from one point to another on any form of transportation. Just as long as they were taken care of and not damaged, I personally wouldn't care if my table was delivered to me on a buckboard wagon pulled by a team of mules. So why fault a mechanic for what he drives and for the trailer he pulls?
One last point: Why do some of you insist on your table being delivered by a squad of table mechanics? If a mechanic can deliver and set up a table by himself, then so be it. I'm sure if he needs a hand, he will arrange it. Otherwise volunteering to help him (when he doesn't need it) and then griping at him because you helped is a very lame argument.
teambizy said:smokeandapancak said:It sounds like Glen has a lot of stuff going on...
Flat tires.. bad tranny... no trailer... long miles.... Holidays away from home.... whew.. sounds tough...
But honestly... all of your problems are, well, your problems and of absoulty no concern of the customer...)outside of the weather, cant do much to help that)... repairs...gas cost...time away from your family.. bad time managment (gas stations closed)... all of that is ON YOU....inherent vices.. part of the job.
Well , actually its not on you persey... ultimatley it falls on Diamond since the customer paid them and not you..
Either way a deal was made and a deal was broken.. (whatever the reason) by no fault of the consumer...
If they take that from your pay ..then once again, its your contract and your problem.. the buyer shouldnt ever even hear that...
Lastly.. if I purchased a 5K dollar table and it showed up on a OPEN trailer on the back of a mini truck that had just drove UMPTEEN MILES...AND there wasnt anybody help get it in the house....... I might be a little bit upset....
BTW what do you do if you go to setup a table at an older persons home or to wife who is surprising her husband? who helps you then ?[/QUOTE
I agree with everything you stated above.
I still get the job done no matter what. And if I need more help, and the customer is not willing, or unable to help, then I let the customer know that there will be an additional charge for extra help as that part of the charge was not included in the original quote for delivery and set up. If the customer refuses to pay the additional charges, then I have no choice but to return the table to Diamond for other arrangements.
Glen
realkingcobra said:OK .... not trying to be an ass here.. just playing a little devils advocate if you will....teambizy said:I still get the job done no matter what. And if I need more help, and the customer is not willing, or unable to help, then I let the customer know that there will be an additional charge for extra help as that part of the charge was not included in the original quote for delivery and set up. If the customer refuses to pay the additional charges, then I have no choice but to return the table to Diamond for other arrangements.
Glen
Is the customer aware of that possible extra charge for the start?
Once again I am not trying to paint you as a bad guy ... obviously you do what you can with what you got...but you have to understand my point.... I know it sucks but hey that's the Customer service industry for ya !!!!
IT was NOT my choice to tarp the table and transport it in a rain storm, I would have rather waited for it to pass...but NOT the customer! I did everything I could to look after this table, and I add that to the fact that the table NEVER got damaged in any way shape or form during or after the delivery! What ALL of you fail to understand, is that a Diamond 9ft ProAm can not be put in the back of just any ol delivery truck or trailer...it's to tall on the dolly to clear the ceiling height of the truck! What you ALL fail to understand, is that NO trucking company will transport a Diamond 9ft ProAm or ANY other table to a location on a dolly with wheels! What you ALL fail to understand, is the fact that Diamond did it's job of selling this table to the customer and charging him for the delivery and set up, and that the rest was on me to complete the job, so you fail to understand that Diamond had no further responsibility to this customer unless I fail to deliver the table! What you further FAIL to understand is that phone calls WERE made to the customer...numerous times! What you FAIL to understand is that the customer never once said, "Look Glen, I'm going to go to work everyday, until I get a call from YOU telling me that you're within a couple of hours from being at my house to deliver my table so that I don't loose any time off of work, okay?" My response to that would have been, I'll tell you what, I'll call you when I'm in town, and I'll stay in a hotel that night and we'll get started in the morning installing your table so that you don't waste any of your time! What you ALL fail to understand, is that this table weighs 1,300 lbs and is fully assembled! What you ALL fail to understand, is that the customer was compensated by me with all the extra work I performed on his table, including going to the store with him to get the hardware to hang his light and helping to do so, of which I had NO obligation to do so, as Diamond mechanic's are NOT required to hang lights, nor refurbish USED tables! AND, I didn't charge the customer for any extra work, not that I would have anyway! I've been delivering Diamonds tables to half the United States now for over 2 1/2 years, and never yet have I delivered a damaged table, damaged a customers house...or failed to be able to install a table....not even when it meant that I had to install a Diamond 9ft ProAm (1,300lbs) up 14 stairs straight up in a guys house here in Las Vegas and all the customer had to do was sit down and operate the come-along to pull the table up the stairs! What you ALL fail to understand, is that I got the job done, took ALL the responsibility for being late, compensated the customer accordingly and was done with it. THEN the customer took it upon himself to continue to complain further, and for what? It has no further bearing on the subject! So what else does this customer want for compensation?, my first born child?...WHAT????????? I DON'T CARE ANYMORE, THE JOB IS DONE!!!!!!!smokeandapancak said:Why fault the mechanic......? Seriously... if what he drives is cant cut the mustard then who should be faluted... the customer... the "system"...Horse dokie...the onus falls on the contractor....
Let your 5K investment roll in however you want... I expect mine to have a little more care given to it....A tarp does not cut it in my book... not a professional image if you ask me... guess I might be a snob....![]()