Diamond Professional 8' Questions

[DJKeys]

Drawing to the long rail one rail with too much angle. It is impossible to hold the cue ball like you can do on any normal table and you have to draw it 2 rails instead.

Also, when you end up with too much angle cutting a ball into the corner pocket down the long rail and want to go 2 rails to the other long rail. With this shot even if you make the object ball barely reach the pocket you still end up with the cue ball in the center of the table overrunning your position by a foot or more. The only solution for this shot is to hit the ball really firm and go 3 rails. This is another shot that should be possible on any normal table that just isn't possible on an 8 foot with artemis.

Basically with artemis on an 8 footer you will end up with a gaffy table that plays different than 99% of all other tables out there. I'm having a new 8.5' table made and I for this exact reason it won't have artemis. There was a pool hall here (that covid killed) which had like 10 Diamond 8 footers with artemis and the patterns you had to play on them were different than any other tables in town (including the two 9 foot Diamonds they had with artemis): all because of the rubber.

From what I understand situations like above are the reason Diamond stopped using Artemis on their tables smaller than 9 foot and went to Diamond Black rubber.

In this Manning video, near the end, the cushions are discussed. At 12:20 Heath points out that putting Artemis on a 7 or 8 foot table would produce ball travel "that would not be realistic":

-dj

 

[realkingcobra]

In this Manning video, near the end, the cushions are discussed. At 12:20 Heath points out that putting Artemis on a 7 or 8 foot table would produce ball travel "that would not be realistic":

-dj

Don't mistake a sales pitch for actual proof of anything ok! The reason Diamond DON'T install them on their tables other than the 9fts is because they're cost prohibitive when compared to the cost of the MBS black cushions Diamond uses for them. I've installed the Artemis cushions on 7fts Diamonds and I'm telling you point blank, faster is Bullshit!!!

 

[DJKeys]

Don't mistake a sales pitch for actual proof of anything ok! The reason Diamond DON'T install them on their tables other than the 9fts is because they're cost prohibitive when compared to the cost of the MBS black cushions Diamond uses for them. I've installed the Artemis cushions on 7fts Diamonds and I'm telling you point blank, faster is Bullshit!!!

Hmmm.. Thanks! If that is the case, I may have them installed on my 8 foot Pro-Am I got in June. The Black Diamond cushions are OK, but seem kind of dead to me compared to the 9 foot Diamonds at the pool hall. Maybe will do it when I have the table recovered. The profile is the same, correct? It seems they would be definitely more responsive-

-dj

 

[realkingcobra]

Hmmm.. Thanks! If that is the case, I may have them installed on my 8 foot Pro-Am I got in June. The Black Diamond cushions are OK, but seem kind of dead to me compared to the 9 foot Diamonds at the pool hall. Maybe will do it when I have the table recovered. The profile is the same, correct? It seems they would be definitely more responsive-

-dj

If I were you, the first thing I'd do is tighten the rail bolts to 15 ft lbs. You get the SAME 9 rail banks with either Artemis OR Diamond black, so its a myth that the Artemis cushions are faster.

 

[DJKeys]

If I were you, the first thing I'd do is tighten the rail bolts to 15 ft lbs. You get the SAME 9 rail banks with either Artemis OR Diamond black, so its a myth that the Artemis cushions are faster.

That is the first thing I did, remember we talked on the phone about it and you helped me out getting the right tool and torquing to 15. You have given me tons of advice a number of times, thanks again!

-dj

 

[realkingcobra]

That is the first thing I did, remember we talked on the phone about it and you helped me out getting the right tool and torquing to 15. You have given me tons of advice a number of times, thanks again!

-dj

I forgot, seem to be doing that a lot lately, I turn 65 in 2 days, so I don't think the forgetting things is going to be getting any better

Oh well, as long as I don't forget how to go fishing life will be great

 

[DJKeys]

I forgot, seem to be doing that a lot lately, I turn 65 in 2 days, so I don't think the forgetting things is going to be getting any better

Oh well, as long as I don't forget how to go fishing life will be great

Yep, the important things in life for sure. Happy Birthday, man!

-dj