Only if you give out your own cunning translation for this one
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RubixOne
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That makes sense.In games that are called shot the player only calls the non-obvious shots, and among the good players they don't even call the 8 ball if they know they are playing with an honest player. Usually the ones that yell about you not calling the 8 will tend to try to cheat if they can get away with it themselves. Heck, some of the players I play I don't even bother calling banks or combos, they know if I did not mean to shot the shot that way I will walk away and it's their turn. Those shots can be pretty obvious also, one rail banks, even kicks where the object ball is close to a pocket, if someone hits those but does not say anything about calling the pocket I just assume they were going for the shot. With a few exceptions of course LOL, there are some players I know that I have to watch carefully or they will try to pull some moves. Which is a nice way of saying "cheat"
Plus you may have seen games that were not being played by call shot rules, unless you were watching a pro match. APA league for example is not called shot, and a random game you watch they may not have been playing called shot. I would say most games played by beginners or people used to bar rules are played by slop, people that are at least C level of play play called shot 8 ball. Unless they grew up only playing in a league like APA where it's played as a slop game except the 8.
RubixOne
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That wouldn't make much sense, considering that the game was named after the diamond shape of the 9-ball rack. But I suppose it would make a nice abbreviation.
It was said in jest.
I'm not a fan of the rule set.
I don't think 9ball is broken, especially at an amateur level.
Corn hole is much simpler and the players are happier and it’s on ESPN.
This thread demonstrates why pool is NOT and corn hole IS.
And why there are 1,325,753 threads on AZB about this topic.
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Fatboy <———trust me I took the time out of my day to count the number of threads
This thread demonstrates why pool is NOT and corn hole IS.
And why there are 1,325,753 threads on AZB about this topic.
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Fatboy <———trust me I took the time out of my day to count the number of threads
Most "problems" with 9 ball are fixed by playing 10 ball
The rule about 8 ball losing if pocketed early, or in wrong pocket came about from bar tables, were if the 8 is sunk it's locked so the game is over. Should not be a carry over into other games since 9 ball is not really played on typical bar tables where you pay coins to get the balls out. The rules may be OK to play on a coin bar table though, in fact they seem to be geared for exactly that.
As long as the pool industry will remain happy on small streaming channels with only pool industry sponsors, so be it. 10-Ball would never make good TV. Even 9-Ball had to be chopped down for TV viewing. 10-Ball is also much less exciting for the average TV viewer to watch.
RubixOne
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Impressive... most impressive.
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RubixOne
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After finishing Snookerpool, I decided to revisit this game, and I found a better solution to the break problem - rotating the rack 90 degrees and placing the 9-ball on the foot spot, akin to how the solids and the 14-ball are set up in Snookerpool. Because of the way the balls move when the breaker smashes the pack open, there isn't really a weakness in the pack to exploit, making golden breaks and other quick wins very difficult, even with pattern racking, gaps in the rack, and soft breaking.
Edit: I also added a rule to handle situations where the winner cannot be identified when the 9-ball is sunk.
Edit: I also added a rule to handle situations where the winner cannot be identified when the 9-ball is sunk.
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RubixOne
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If 9-ball is checkers, snooker is chess.
Have a good stiff drink, take a nap, and all of that will pass.
Snooker still basically guides your shot selection, and the safety play is not to the level of pool games. Snooker is checkers on a larger board. 8 Ball and one pocket are the real chess games.
RubixOne
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After some tests, I decided to allow push outs for the second shot of the rack, but with a catch - it is a foul to pot the 9-ball without hitting the lowest numbered ball first. And since potting the 9-ball and committing a foul is a loss, this prevents push outs from being used for easy wins.
I look at pool as a game of skill. If I shoot a ball into the corner and it doesn’t go it’s a miss. I’ve never understood how someone can miss a ball, by a foot at times, it goes in three rails later and they win. If you miss you miss, shouldn’t matter what happens after a miss