Did the IPT finals make it to the mainstream news?
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None of it's mainstream, but I found the following:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/07/31/sports/manalo.faces.hohmann.in.ipt.final.html
http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=12637
http://www.mb.com.ph/SPRT2006073170497.html
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports03_july31_2006
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/07/31/sports/manalo.faces.hohmann.in.ipt.final.html
http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=12637
http://www.mb.com.ph/SPRT2006073170497.html
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports03_july31_2006
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PoolSleuth
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Why No press Coverage? Because Pool is not a Main Stream News/Sports Event. It is like like Bowling, Table Tennis, Rifle Shooting, Archery, etc.
WHY... IMO Because there are no Big Name Sponsors like
Coca Cola
Pepsi Cola
Beer Companies
Car Companies
Booze companies
Drug companies
Laundry detergent Companies and the like you see
On NASCAR Sponsorship.
When these Sponsor get involved in Pool, the Press Coverage will come IMO....
WHY... IMO Because there are no Big Name Sponsors like
Coca Cola
Pepsi Cola
Beer Companies
Car Companies
Booze companies
Drug companies
Laundry detergent Companies and the like you see
On NASCAR Sponsorship.
When these Sponsor get involved in Pool, the Press Coverage will come IMO....
This is a good point.
Interesting that you mention bowling, though. This is definitely a major sport in terms of the money and sponsorship involved. Pro bowlers can make quite a nice living compared to pool players (pre-IPT potential). Yet no one hears anything about pro bowling tournaments in the mainstream news.
Perhaps it's not a total waste then, that the IPT isn't getting major coverage. If bowling can be a success without news and press, hopefully pool can as well.
Interesting that you mention bowling, though. This is definitely a major sport in terms of the money and sponsorship involved. Pro bowlers can make quite a nice living compared to pool players (pre-IPT potential). Yet no one hears anything about pro bowling tournaments in the mainstream news.
Perhaps it's not a total waste then, that the IPT isn't getting major coverage. If bowling can be a success without news and press, hopefully pool can as well.
PoolSleuth said:
PoolSleuth
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mickey2 said:
Did you see the program on Eurosport?
If it was not a Pay for View, who were the Sponsors?
Was it a pay For View?
Is Eurosport like an ABC,NBC, CBS, or Fox, or is it what we shall call a Small Secondard Network?
PoolSleuth said:
Good question PS, I've been wondering as well. So, with my thanks to our European members for the live updates over the last few days, who's commercials were running during the IPT coverage ? Please don't tell me you all went to the bathroom during the commercials
I'd also be curious about the Las Vegas print coverage. If the event were to get any newspaper coverage it should be in the city where it was held, ime.
Thanks again,
Dave
The pool tour would need to be successful for several years before American newspapers or television sports news programs would start covering it. It seems like the newspapers and sports television only cover a certain short list of sports. A new sport is added to their coverage only after it becomes too popular to be ignored.
The sport of mixed martial arts (UFC, Pride, etc.) is a prime example. Championship fights sell out 15,000 seat arenas and the champions are becoming nearly as famous as boxing's champions. The talent pool is also increasing as more teenagers choose MMA over boxing. The championship fights are still not covered on Sportscenter or in newspapers because they never covered them in the past, but relatively small boxing title matches will still garner mentions. If the current momentum continues, it may still be several years before mixed martial arts starts getting any notable mainstream press coverage.
The sport of mixed martial arts (UFC, Pride, etc.) is a prime example. Championship fights sell out 15,000 seat arenas and the champions are becoming nearly as famous as boxing's champions. The talent pool is also increasing as more teenagers choose MMA over boxing. The championship fights are still not covered on Sportscenter or in newspapers because they never covered them in the past, but relatively small boxing title matches will still garner mentions. If the current momentum continues, it may still be several years before mixed martial arts starts getting any notable mainstream press coverage.
Wikipedia: “Eurosport is the largest European sports satellite and cable network available in 54 countries and broadcasting in 18 different languages.”
Eurosport is definitely a big one.
I saw some matches on Eurosport 1 but can’t remember what commercials have been shown during the breaks, since I don’t remember it must have been the usual stuff….probably I went to the kitchen and/or bathromm ;-)
IPT Coverage:
25.07 23:30 - 01:30
26.07 00:00 - 01:30
27.07 19:30 - 00:00 LIVE !
28.07 22:00 - 00:00 LIVE !
29.07 22:00 - 00:00 LIVE !
31.07 20:45 - 23:00
Eurosport also started to show the EuroTour. At least I get Eurosport 1 for free with my cable package, and probably you can get it for free via satellite.
Eurosport is definitely a big one.
I saw some matches on Eurosport 1 but can’t remember what commercials have been shown during the breaks, since I don’t remember it must have been the usual stuff….probably I went to the kitchen and/or bathromm ;-)
IPT Coverage:
25.07 23:30 - 01:30
26.07 00:00 - 01:30
27.07 19:30 - 00:00 LIVE !
28.07 22:00 - 00:00 LIVE !
29.07 22:00 - 00:00 LIVE !
31.07 20:45 - 23:00
Eurosport also started to show the EuroTour. At least I get Eurosport 1 for free with my cable package, and probably you can get it for free via satellite.
PoolSleuth
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�I worked about 15+ years in the News business, as a Freelance News Photographer, and will try and explain why some events get GREAT PRESS Coverage, and some get shall we say are Ignored.
IPT Pool is a Sport News Feature Story, or Filler unless the IPT PR People know how to work the Press.
The California State Fair in Sacramento is or should I say always was most a Non Hard News Event, good for filler stories, but it got a BOAT LOAD of News Coverage when the Fair was running in Sacramento California before i left town in 98.
Why?
The California State Fair always HAD A GREAT Press Preview Event with Great Food & Drink just before the Fair opened. Media People love FREEBEES. Plus on opening Day the Press got Fed, and Drank well again.
Also the State Fair had several people in their Press Department/office who were always Feeding Stories, and Still Photo about Local people from all the California Counties. Involved in the Fair, like Winning Medals at the Fair be it livestock, Crafts, etc. These stories and photo were fed to every little paper in California. Resulting to visitors coming to the fair.
Plus all the Sacramento Major Media Outlets were at the Fair Daily, as again it was FREE FOOD, and Drink. Fair provide the Food & Drinks, and the Media Cover the Event Daily.
Plus besides the State Fair Media Department flooded the Press with Press Release, plus the Fair’s Major Sponsor also flooded the Media with more Press Release.
Plus many of the State Fairs Major Sponsor spent MANY BUCKS ANNUALLY on Print, Radio, and T.V. Advertising During the YEAR. So it was kind of like Playback time for the Media, to playback their clients for all the money they spent on advertising. With State Fair News coverage.
I hope I have painted a picture where you all see that money spent, achieves results when trying to get the Media Out to cover a Pool, or other event.
Don't get me wrong there were good Neature News Stories at the CA State Fair, but IMO the state Fair got more than there share of press coverage for many reasons.
IPT Pool is a Sport News Feature Story, or Filler unless the IPT PR People know how to work the Press.
The California State Fair in Sacramento is or should I say always was most a Non Hard News Event, good for filler stories, but it got a BOAT LOAD of News Coverage when the Fair was running in Sacramento California before i left town in 98.
Why?
The California State Fair always HAD A GREAT Press Preview Event with Great Food & Drink just before the Fair opened. Media People love FREEBEES. Plus on opening Day the Press got Fed, and Drank well again.
Also the State Fair had several people in their Press Department/office who were always Feeding Stories, and Still Photo about Local people from all the California Counties. Involved in the Fair, like Winning Medals at the Fair be it livestock, Crafts, etc. These stories and photo were fed to every little paper in California. Resulting to visitors coming to the fair.
Plus all the Sacramento Major Media Outlets were at the Fair Daily, as again it was FREE FOOD, and Drink. Fair provide the Food & Drinks, and the Media Cover the Event Daily.
Plus besides the State Fair Media Department flooded the Press with Press Release, plus the Fair’s Major Sponsor also flooded the Media with more Press Release.
Plus many of the State Fairs Major Sponsor spent MANY BUCKS ANNUALLY on Print, Radio, and T.V. Advertising During the YEAR. So it was kind of like Playback time for the Media, to playback their clients for all the money they spent on advertising. With State Fair News coverage.
I hope I have painted a picture where you all see that money spent, achieves results when trying to get the Media Out to cover a Pool, or other event.
Don't get me wrong there were good Neature News Stories at the CA State Fair, but IMO the state Fair got more than there share of press coverage for many reasons.
Interesting topic about the IPT and main stream news. I think, the IPT if they are going to have an event in Las Vegas should have it in late August or early September? Why? There is way too many things going on in LV in June-August, namley the WSOP. Too much attention being taken away from such a prestigist event like the IPT pool tour.
From news papers to TV, the wsop will sap all the attention from most anything. Especially when movie stars are attending the events and the amounts of money involved with the WSOP. Also, Vegas is Vegas and there is lots to in this city than watch a pool tournament. They need to schedule it when times are slower and less attractions are in town so they have the potential to get the best turnouts in fan attendence..
From news papers to TV, the wsop will sap all the attention from most anything. Especially when movie stars are attending the events and the amounts of money involved with the WSOP. Also, Vegas is Vegas and there is lots to in this city than watch a pool tournament. They need to schedule it when times are slower and less attractions are in town so they have the potential to get the best turnouts in fan attendence..
Well, even if you send press releases to the AP or REUTERS it's no guarantee it will get picked up by a network or even a local paper.
I would imagine the IPT has sent out press releases, but I tried a search through all press releases from AP, Reuters, PRnewswire, etc...and came up dry on IPT or International Pool Tour. Could it be nobody sent out press releases? I kinda doubt that but you never know, that would be an amazing blunder if you ask me.
It's clearly up to the IPT to push the living crap out of this, you have to push these stories all over the net and newswire, you have to make calls, make something unusual happen at the event, etc. You have to draw the attention; nobody is going to cover it without even knowing about it.
I hope it's just a matter of waiting until the HUGE $500,000 first place next month to really push it to the media, if not they are missing the boat, you should at least find the stories on newswire, sure it might not get picked up but at least it's out there.
I would imagine the IPT has sent out press releases, but I tried a search through all press releases from AP, Reuters, PRnewswire, etc...and came up dry on IPT or International Pool Tour. Could it be nobody sent out press releases? I kinda doubt that but you never know, that would be an amazing blunder if you ask me.
It's clearly up to the IPT to push the living crap out of this, you have to push these stories all over the net and newswire, you have to make calls, make something unusual happen at the event, etc. You have to draw the attention; nobody is going to cover it without even knowing about it.
I hope it's just a matter of waiting until the HUGE $500,000 first place next month to really push it to the media, if not they are missing the boat, you should at least find the stories on newswire, sure it might not get picked up but at least it's out there.
JustPlay said:
When I was at the tournament, I overheard one of the IPT folks saying that KT was thrilled with the fan turnout. They had very low expectations for the ticket sales, and there was absolutely no visible promotion for the event in the Venetian. In between matches, I would stop at a casino lounge to grab a drink and play some video poker, and the bartenders had absolutely no idea a pool tournament was taking place in the building.
Huge attendance at these events is definitely not a part of the IPT's business plan. More people requires more space, more security, etc.
The same thing looks like it is true of the media - newspapers, TV, etc. KT is sticking to the same methods that have worked in the past for him - infomercial style television production. I would also guess that the IPT is spending their Marketing budget in regions of the world that will eventually provide the greatest revenue streams from TV rights and merchandise, which would be Europe and Asia since those regions already have mainstream news coverage for cuesports events.
coreyh said:
I think the fans in the seats consisted more of the friends and families of the players than actual pool enthusiest. And how about the half mile walk to get a drink or some food. Down/up 3 flights of escalators and the long walk to and from the food court and casino. The location of the event was terrible.
I did watch the live coverage and it was done really good. KT knows how to put up a show.
Eurosport is a free channel. The commercials I have seen have been : other sports coverages of Eurosport and some Time Life Homeshopping Country Music CD, games for mobile phones etc......(How on earth can someone listen to Hank Williams????)
What you have to think of is, that EUROSPORT is the channel that covers the professional Snooker over here(live). Snooker has a growing popularity here as a TV programm though the prize money there is on a decline... So a lot of people have been watching just for the fact that Ronnie O'Sullivan was playing ....he is a celebrity in Europe.
Eurosport is similar to ESPN in the US. I don't know if you consider ESPN big or small.
Anyway, I think the deal with Eurosport is the biggest achievment for the IPT and KT to make this whole thing going. Never before there has been a real chance to truely be a pool professional!!! Everybody interested in Pool Billiards should support this tour, regardless of KT's past or any other bull sh.. If one has a serious interest that pool should ever break out into the daylight of professional sports, this is the chance. It might be the only chance pool will ever get. Just my 2 cents
Markus
Eurosport is a free channel. The commercials I have seen have been : other sports coverages of Eurosport and some Time Life Homeshopping Country Music CD, games for mobile phones etc......(How on earth can someone listen to Hank Williams????)
What you have to think of is, that EUROSPORT is the channel that covers the professional Snooker over here(live). Snooker has a growing popularity here as a TV programm though the prize money there is on a decline... So a lot of people have been watching just for the fact that Ronnie O'Sullivan was playing ....he is a celebrity in Europe.
Eurosport is similar to ESPN in the US. I don't know if you consider ESPN big or small.
Anyway, I think the deal with Eurosport is the biggest achievment for the IPT and KT to make this whole thing going. Never before there has been a real chance to truely be a pool professional!!! Everybody interested in Pool Billiards should support this tour, regardless of KT's past or any other bull sh.. If one has a serious interest that pool should ever break out into the daylight of professional sports, this is the chance. It might be the only chance pool will ever get. Just my 2 cents
Markus
PoolSleuth said:
I thought ...
That the William Morris agency out of New York that KT hired would be involved in this end. It has not been elaborated very much, but I would be interested in what responsibilities they have in regards to the IPT tour.
mnorwood said:
That the William Morris agency out of New York that KT hired would be involved in this end. It has not been elaborated very much, but I would be interested in what responsibilities they have in regards to the IPT tour.