Dieckman cue with mismatched shaft?

[klwill1192]

I just added a beautiful Dennis Dieckman cue to my collection, and I'm curious about the shaft. It doesn't match the butt, so I'm thinking it's not original. Assuming it's not, who would you recommend to make a matching shaft for me?

UPDATE: Andy Vandervoord has agreed to make a new shaft for me. He has some of Dennis' old equipment and wood. I probably won't be able to get much closer to original. I'm going to meet him when I'm back in Michigan over Thanksgiving.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

nice bit of cue history you have
lots of cue makers out there that can make a good shaft for you, take your pick
hard to go wrong really

 

[bbb]

if it plays well you dont need another shaft?
the new shaft will not be original either

 

[klwill1192]

if it plays well you dont need another shaft?
the new shaft will not be original either

Good point. But if this shaft isn't original either, then I'd prefer to have a matching non-original shaft vs a non-matching non-original shaft.

 

[joelpope]

easy to replace black ring on shaft with white if that is what is bothering you

 

[Quesports]

Is your cue a pool cue or a carom cue? If it is a carom cue Ron Kilby might be worth a call. If it is a pool cue then your list opens up considerably..

Very nice example of his work!

 

[dirtvictim]

If it plays well then as that guy ^ said have the collar changed to white. I would also have a second shaft made.

 

[bbb]

Good point. But if this shaft isn't original either, then I'd prefer to have a matching non-original shaft vs a non-matching non-original shaft.

i understand
but as mentioned above if it plays well you could change the collar to white

 

[klwill1192]

nice bit of cue history you have
lots of cue makers out there that can make a good shaft for you, take your pick
hard to go wrong really

Thanks! I knew what the shaft looked like before I bought the cue, but I couldn't pass up the deal. I'm primarily hoping for confirmation one way of the other.

My other Dieckman has matching joint collars and no ferrule.

easy to replace black ring on shaft with white if that is what is bothering you

That, plus the brass ferrule. My other Dieckman cue has no ferrule.

 

[ideologist]

Good point. But if this shaft isn't original either, then I'd prefer to have a matching non-original shaft vs a non-matching non-original shaft.

How do you know it isn't original? He did weird stuff, including mismatched collars at times

 

[erriep]

I just added a beautiful Dennis Dieckman cue to my collection, and I'm curious about the shaft. It doesn't match the butt, so I'm thinking it's not original. Assuming it's not, who would you recommend to make a matching shaft for me?

Dave Barenbrugge !

 

[klwill1192]

How do you know it isn't original? He did weird stuff, including mismatched collars at times

I don't know that it's not original. That's why I'm asking. I'm hoping someone who knows his work better than I will be able to tell me one way or the other.

 

[ideologist]

I don't know that it's not original. That's why I'm asking. I'm hoping someone who knows his work better than I will be able to tell me one way or the other.

If it fits dead perfect on there and not refinished, it is probably original.

 

[klwill1192]

If it fits dead perfect on there and not refinished, it is probably original.

I just measured them. The joint diameter on the butt is 21.80mm, but the joint diameter on the shaft is only 21.49mm. I can definitely feel the difference in size.

 

[ideologist]

I just measured them. The joint diameter on the butt is 21.80mm, but the joint diameter on the shaft is only 21.49mm. I can definitely feel the difference in size.

Fair enough, not original then

 

[Chicagoplayer]

I just added a beautiful Dennis Dieckman cue to my collection, and I'm curious about the shaft. It doesn't match the butt, so I'm thinking it's not original. Assuming it's not, who would you recommend to make a matching shaft for me?
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Lots of Dennis’ shafts are a bit off.
But I love ‘em!

I’m happy to have been to his shop when he lived in Michigan.

 

[hang-the-9]

Lots of Dennis’ shafts are a bit off.
But I love ‘em!

I’m happy to have been to his shop when he lived in Michigan.

He was never one for precision in his work. I always thought his cues looked like what a stoned woodworker would do on a dare, which I guess was basically him LOL

 

[Bob Jewett]

He was never one for precision in his work. I always thought his cues looked like what a stoned woodworker would do on a dare, which I guess was basically him LOL

He was definitely one of a kind. I remember a tournament at a fancy city club around 2004. He was sort of the tournament director/master of ceremonies. He showed up in a tuxedo and barefoot.

 

[3kushn]

This Man is your very best option to come closest to an original. He was close and knows the specs

BarenbruggeCues.com

The only official website for Barenbrugge Cues Inc.

barenbruggecues.com

Dennis wanted to quit doing shafts. I believe this man was 1st pick.

 

[Chicagoplayer]

How do you know it isn't original? He did weird stuff, including mismatched collars at times

Sure did.