Difference between rack breaks?

pulldapin

pulldapin

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Majic Rack type templates and traditional triangle's(to include all pocket billiard games) ...What do you consider the differences to be (better or worse)?

1. tightness
2. explosiveness
3. play interference
4. any other attributes

looking for any other constructive thought on the matter

Mahalo,
Carl
 
pulldapin said:
Majic Rack type templates and traditional triangle's(to include all pocket billiard games) ...What do you consider the differences to be (better or worse)?

1. tightness
2. explosiveness
3. play interference
4. any other attributes

looking for any other constructive thought on the matter

Mahalo,
Carl
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What you're going to end up with is a "my rack is better than your rack" thread. You are going to notice that whatever rack the posters have spent their money on is the best one on the market today.

I have yet to try (or even SEE) a Magic Rack in person. I like the concept. I would think that for tables with worn-out (read: dimpled) breaking areas, that the Magic Rack would be the best thing out there. If table cloth is in fairly good condition with a minimum of dimples, the Delta-13 rack is hard to beat for quickly getting a tight rack.

I have noticed on some live streams where the Magic Rack AND the Delta-13 are both available at the streaming table, some of the players have actually used both racks during their match (Alex P. used the Delta-13 almost exclusively in one stream I watched). I think they are playing around/experimenting to see which gives the best results on the table at that given time. I have not noticed ANY appreciable difference in their breaks regardless of which rack they use.

This is the only thing I can add: The Magic Rack is s-l-o-w for racking. On worn cloth it may be faster than trying to get the balls to stay together with a triangle, but on new tournament cloth (read: as in major tournies like the U.S. Open), the Delta rack would speed up the matches. And.....regardless of what anyone says on here, I have seen the MR alter/halt the path of a slow-rolling ball. I saw it happen several times on the Ultimate 10-ball stream.

I have two Delta-13 racks (the plain one and the Elite version). I like 'em just fine, but when the price of an extremely thin piece of plastic with holes in it comes down below $5 apiece, then I'm going to spring for a couple of Magic Racks. I'll be ready for anything then.

Maniac
 
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Magic rack fatal flaw

The Majic Rack is cool, definately holds the balls together nicely for a tight rack. Where it fails is when a slow moving object ball cannot make it's way out of the rack, usually at the the back side. Often it's the money ball that gets trapped.

Let's say you are playing a set for the cash and your oponent breaks, makes a ball and the rack sets up a ride for the cash. Will you love Magic Rack after he makes that for your money?

The rack traps balls routinely, just watch any stream that uses them. As we all know an inch here or there with a money ball near the foot spot can be all she wrote.

The counter agrument is that since both players are using the same equipment then it's fair. That argument has never made sense to me, especially when money is involved.
 
I love the Magic Rack. 0 effort to get all the balls tight. Get a great spread on the balls, and especially in 9-ball, I have yet to have a break on one with 0 balls dropping. Of-course I only got mine last week and used it for one day :D

About balls getting trapped in it due to the fact it sticks off the table a bit (it is a smal plastic sheet after all), I'd much rather have the 9-ball sitting in the middle of the rack then heading towards a corner pocket for an easy combo.

Figure 10 9-ball games, all had 1-3 balls drop. And the 9 never once headed towards the corner pockets. Can't wait to use it tomorrow in a tournament. Play short races were an early 9-ball combo or on the snap is pretty bad. The Magic Rack should put a damper on things a bit.
 
master9baller said:
The Majic Rack is cool, definately holds the balls together nicely for a tight rack. Where it fails is when a slow moving object ball cannot make it's way out of the rack, usually at the the back side. Often it's the money ball that gets trapped.
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IMO when a 9ball rack is racked correctly the 9ball shouldn't move at all (unless contacted by another ball). But it does impact some breaks where a slow moving ball will roll off.

The magic rack works so well for me it should be illegal. I can make the wing ball 98% of the time. I also own a delta 13 which I use for 14.1 and 8ball. But for 9 and 10 ball I always use the magic rack.
 
Maniac said:
..... I like 'em just fine, but when the price of an extremely thin piece of plastic with holes in it comes down below $5 apiece, then I'm going to spring for a couple of Magic Racks. I'll be ready for anything then.

Maniac
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You get two for $10 ... so while not BELOW $5 each .. they are exactly $5 each! :wink:

I use the Magic Rack for 9-ball league play. Worn cloth, standard table racks just don't cut it. These are easy to carry, and if I leave one at the hall, no big deal as they are cheap. (I tend to forget items I carry in!)

I purchased a set when I could not give my opponent a good rack no matter what. Bought these - issue solved.

Doubt I would use one for Straight, 1P, or even 8 ball though.
 
8ball

I love the 8 ball one. The poolhall I play at, each table has 3 different types of balls that are all dirty and tables that are difficult to rack so having a magic rack is, for my situation, a complete necessity.

There are always going to be some problems regarding balls in the rack or a ball that rolls off due to it hitting the rack but it's better than the alternative.

Gonna use it for the BCA tourney in Vegas as well.
 
Even with explosive breaking like 8/9ball, when the balls slow roll back over the magic rack the diamond cuts in the rack veer the balls off natural roll. Someone finicky might really hate this when it happens. I guess you have to sacrifice getting the perfectly tight racked balls over them veering off passing back through.
 
I have a solution for racking problems.... Rack Tight or the Slug Doctor (which ever they're both the same thing) you have no problems and you dont have to remove it from the table.


So tired of hearing about this and that about racking. You're gonna get bad racks on all types of tables from the pro tourneys to the dive bars. Its part of the game and if I hear players B*tch about the rack the more i like my odds.

Sorry to go off about it but WHO CARES if you dont get a perfect rack everytime?? If you want a perfect rack on any table use the racks mentioned above.. We had them at the VA States last year and everybody loved them and you never heard a whisper about the rack or the equipment.

Every rack i have used has a problem or two with it or havent you noticed that nobody has cornered the market on this?? Slug Doc or the Tight Crack are the best hands down and have very small to ZERO issues. Ask Jay.. Everybody on here knows how much in love he is with his...


JMHOIYDLIIAS
 
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