Yes, funny it’s just a single rack from two years ago.
If you let the video run long enough you can hold a drunk Girl Scout up to the table and eventually get a recording of her running a rack.
Lou Figueroa
Digicue Blue. Guys are Afraid to Know?
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Yes, funny it’s just a single rack from two years ago.
If you let the video run long enough you can hold a drunk Girl Scout up to the table and eventually get a recording of her running a rack.
Lou Figueroa
I never said I was even good at pool. This is why I use training aids to get better. Let's play pool and then let's play golf for the same amount.
Lots of Back & Forth But.........
Digicue is a metric tool only.......you must do something with the information. Think of Digicue as a detection alarm......okay? So it alerts you to something but you have to go look at the data after each shot, or all the shots later on, to see what the device says happened even if the shot goes in. But when the OB goes in, why bother since misses truly count. If you ran 2 racks of 10 ball and it activated on every shot, sans break shots, or busted 3 racks playing straight pool, do you care? If you practice playing a couple racks of 9 ball and want to correlate the data to any specific shot you missed, or made, the device does not allow you to recall what you did wrong or what to do to fix it presuming anything about your stroke deserved being changed.
You don"t need a perfect golf swing to win the US Open or any golf tournament. You just need to play better than the field and the same applies to pool tournaments. Shooting at the flag can win or lose a golf tournament but aiming to get reasonably close for a makeable putt is a lot smarter. Well, Digicue doesn't tell you how or what you should do, presuming anything needed to be done, to keep it silent. That's where either video or an instructor or at least a knowledgeable partner is needed. Digicue only alerts you to something & then you have to experiment (trial &error) trying to figure out how to quiet it.
I know when I am satisfied with my stroke. I can tell when I am not hitting or penetrating the CB properly and can feel when my stroke has rythymn, balance & acceptably straight and also when it doesn't. I learn more from using my Apple phone's camera which also has a slow motion option instead of reviewing metrics well after the fact. Video allows me to evaluate and learn whereas Digicue recites data that does not help me recreate or see what I might have done wrong? That's why you need a practice partner or instructor otherwise I'll stick with using video. When you are pocketing balls and Digicue goes off, do you really care? It's only when you miss that matters to me because the one thing no one has spoken about is position play. If I don't manuver the CB in to right window, sooner or later I am going to give up the table. It means I have to use the right stroke velocity and English when needed.
Digicue does squat for position play and keep in mind you are looking at data only, not your stance, head position or movement, cue velocity, etc. It is stagmant information versus actually seeing what you did. For less skilled players, which is terminology that irks some Azers to read or hear, Digicue offers a base of information to work with and try to improve results. As someone pointed out earlier about Lee Trevino's golf swing, and let's not forget pros like Doug Sanders, Julius Boros and especiall Jum Furyk, perfect isn't needed to be a champion. They knew that consistency was the ingredient for success even with an imperfect golf swing. Being a complete player requires knowing how to improve and I submit more advanced players will find that Digicue is interesting but not really well suited for their caliber of play. They will learn a lot more from reviewing video then looking at statistics that would be more meaningful to those less skilled...IMO.
Digicue is a metric tool only.......you must do something with the information. Think of Digicue as a detection alarm......okay? So it alerts you to something but you have to go look at the data after each shot, or all the shots later on, to see what the device says happened even if the shot goes in. But when the OB goes in, why bother since misses truly count. If you ran 2 racks of 10 ball and it activated on every shot, sans break shots, or busted 3 racks playing straight pool, do you care? If you practice playing a couple racks of 9 ball and want to correlate the data to any specific shot you missed, or made, the device does not allow you to recall what you did wrong or what to do to fix it presuming anything about your stroke deserved being changed.
You don"t need a perfect golf swing to win the US Open or any golf tournament. You just need to play better than the field and the same applies to pool tournaments. Shooting at the flag can win or lose a golf tournament but aiming to get reasonably close for a makeable putt is a lot smarter. Well, Digicue doesn't tell you how or what you should do, presuming anything needed to be done, to keep it silent. That's where either video or an instructor or at least a knowledgeable partner is needed. Digicue only alerts you to something & then you have to experiment (trial &error) trying to figure out how to quiet it.
I know when I am satisfied with my stroke. I can tell when I am not hitting or penetrating the CB properly and can feel when my stroke has rythymn, balance & acceptably straight and also when it doesn't. I learn more from using my Apple phone's camera which also has a slow motion option instead of reviewing metrics well after the fact. Video allows me to evaluate and learn whereas Digicue recites data that does not help me recreate or see what I might have done wrong? That's why you need a practice partner or instructor otherwise I'll stick with using video. When you are pocketing balls and Digicue goes off, do you really care? It's only when you miss that matters to me because the one thing no one has spoken about is position play. If I don't manuver the CB in to right window, sooner or later I am going to give up the table. It means I have to use the right stroke velocity and English when needed.
Digicue does squat for position play and keep in mind you are looking at data only, not your stance, head position or movement, cue velocity, etc. It is stagmant information versus actually seeing what you did. For less skilled players, which is terminology that irks some Azers to read or hear, Digicue offers a base of information to work with and try to improve results. As someone pointed out earlier about Lee Trevino's golf swing, and let's not forget pros like Doug Sanders, Julius Boros and especiall Jum Furyk, perfect isn't needed to be a champion. They knew that consistency was the ingredient for success even with an imperfect golf swing. Being a complete player requires knowing how to improve and I submit more advanced players will find that Digicue is interesting but not really well suited for their caliber of play. They will learn a lot more from reviewing video then looking at statistics that would be more meaningful to those less skilled...IMO.
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Yes, Digicue Blue is just an aid to find faults. I happen to know someone that can peg it all the way great on every scale the first time he used it. I can not do that now but it's a challenge to me and I have him to help me. The scale "follow through", to get a high score, the cue stick must be accelerating through the CB (see Jayson Shaw's performance: https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=467573&highlight=jayson&page=2 ) thread 22.
But, in reality, for $129 it isn't too bad a deal. I know they did not expect to sell it to everyone.
Why are you so hell-bent on trying to sway the rest of us???? If you like this doo-dad that's great. For you.
So now it is an aid? You told me it wasn't an aid.
I'm lost, but that's okay. Totally agree you have to know what to do with the data. If all the data is about impact and it doesn't try and program some "perfect/ideal" stroke (although someone above says that's what it does) then I think those numbers could be useful for people that like that kind of feedback or may discover they like that kind of feedback.
But it's not for everyone and just because someone doesn't want to use it doesn't mean they are afraid of finding out they have "faults" - whatever that means.
Seems to be useful, but can't figure out why the constant tone of pushing it on everyone.
I think it's great you posted up a vid, looks like you enjoy playing and have some skills.
I'm lost, but that's okay. Totally agree you have to know what to do with the data. If all the data is about impact and it doesn't try and program some "perfect/ideal" stroke (although someone above says that's what it does) then I think those numbers could be useful for people that like that kind of feedback or may discover they like that kind of feedback.
But it's not for everyone and just because someone doesn't want to use it doesn't mean they are afraid of finding out they have "faults" - whatever that means.
Seems to be useful, but can't figure out why the constant tone of pushing it on everyone.
I think it's great you posted up a vid, looks like you enjoy playing and have some skills.
Thought other pool players might want to know about it. I don't read every thread on the Main Forum. People can skip this one.
It is just a device that demonstrates the faults in the pool stroke. It does describe in a couple of paragraphs what it takes to make a high score but there is nothing there to help you fix it. Not for everyone.
I bought one and am pleased with what it does. When I first used it, it was factory set to measure too many characteristics of the stroke which made it confusing. I set it to just measure one item and read the instructions on what it specifically measures. It worked perfectly.
If you are a "Hit a million balls baby" type learner, it may not be for you. But if you want to make the best use of your time to improve, this may be your ticket. Or as Cicero said... see below....
If you are a "Hit a million balls baby" type learner, it may not be for you. But if you want to make the best use of your time to improve, this may be your ticket. Or as Cicero said... see below....
I think what a tool like the Digicue can teach you is great fundamentals and an improved stroke, both of which are needed when under pressure, I think any instructor or top level player will agree. If your stroke breaks down under pressure you will likely miss a lot of shots, you must rely on a good stroke when the heat is on. I practice long straight in shots on my 9' table almost daily but that does not mean there is no room for my stroke to improve. I can stroke all day long into a Coke bottle but that doesnt mean that I can draw the ball more than 2 inches. If I have a good straight accelerating stroke I know that I will be able to draw the cue ball confidently when needed.
Doesn't that mean that a current video would allow a comparison of the before and after stroke? You talk about people being 'afraid' of the 'truth' yet you won't post current video to actually demonstrate the truth of whether off not the device has helped your game.
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nice shooting but i dont like the rack you used.... it should be a a triangular wood rack....
In a previous post I stated that the Digicue has helped me, but giving an example would have been more informative.
During past drills I found a pause at the backswing really improves my shot making. Then by setting the Digicue to measure the back swing pause and shooting several racks, I realized I was not consistently pausing at every shot. The immediate feedback buzzing when I slipped back to my old habit of not pausing was just what I needed.
I have used Digicue several times now and my the pause is more consistent.
During past drills I found a pause at the backswing really improves my shot making. Then by setting the Digicue to measure the back swing pause and shooting several racks, I realized I was not consistently pausing at every shot. The immediate feedback buzzing when I slipped back to my old habit of not pausing was just what I needed.
I have used Digicue several times now and my the pause is more consistent.
What is that? How does it apply if one is a soda drinker?
It is the buddy hall cue guide. You can use that if you don't want to use an empty soda/beer bottle to groove your stroke.
I have found most people can stroke straight until you give them a cue ball and a target to aim at. Combining those makes a difference because vision or alignment are usually off. That is why I believe more emphasis needs to be placed on those two aspects. Then the stroke just works itself out.
Thought so. I've never seen it before. thanks.