Digicue Blue. Guys are Afraid to Know?

[Bobkitty]

"Tin Cup."

Renee Russo.

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Lou Figueroa

They are showing the "Right Angle" device. That keeps the right arm elbow from bending too much. It is an awesome training aid for golf. I have two of those. Excellent teaching aid. The device will have Rick Smith or David Leadbetter written on it. Top PGA teachers. They and Butch Harmon use this tool a lot. You can make fun of it but it works.

 

[gypsy_soul]

That's funny. Maybe they could add a "You're about to dog it" function. Sort of a " DANGER Will Robinson. Sensors are telling us you are about to choke. Adjust accordingly".

Lol... That's priceless!!!! I'm up for a test whenever the Digicue guy gets prepared I'm your Huckleberry Digicue , make me a believer! I'm 49 and play with a 1960s Dufferin.... old school .... gotta bet something tho I'm sorry !!!!!

 

[gypsy_soul]

This stroke device is amazing. But, why won't you guys buy it and see how your stroke holds up? Pool players would rather spend $2,000 on a new cue stick thinking it will help their game but spending $150 on a device that might reveal their stroke problems... no way.
I've fixed the "Tip Steer" with a change in my stance but the "follow through" is a 6.0. I can not get it higher so far. The "follow through" measures acceleration of the cue stick through the cue ball. My teacher pegs it in the 10's every time so I know it's my stroke. My "straightness" will always be red because I use a pendulum stroke. Must be straight through piston to get this higher so I don't care about that parameter.
Come on and get one. Let's see how your stroke stands.

This guy is not afraid.... I'm almost in Spartanburg for the Shaw match let's get it going !

 

[Bobkitty]

Working hard on the "follow through". I'm am getting about 8.0 from 6.0. It is an amazing stroke change. I'll work on this hoping I can get it to 10. Must start the forward swing slower and speed up through the cue ball. Hope everyone gets to try this.

 

[BRussell]

I haven't used one, but I see that Seybert's has them for $129 right now.

https://www.seyberts.com/OB-digicue-blue

 

[Bobkitty]

I haven't used one, but I see that Seybert's has them for $129 right now.

https://www.seyberts.com/OB-digicue-blue

That is the best price I've seen. For me, getting the "follow through" to read higher means one can not be jerky at the start. I have to start the forward movement with a slower process and accelerate through the CB. If anyone has played golf, from the top of the backswing down to about waist high with the arms, the arms just fall from the top with gravity. Too much snap at the top causes the club shaft to bend and a loss of power at the wrong (early) time.

 

[L I F D 1]

This stroke device is amazing. But, why won't you guys buy it and see how your stroke holds up? Pool players would rather spend $2,000 on a new cue stick thinking it will help their game but spending $150 on a device that might reveal their stroke problems... no way.
I've fixed the "Tip Steer" with a change in my stance but the "follow through" is a 6.0. I can not get it higher so far. The "follow through" measures acceleration of the cue stick through the cue ball. My teacher pegs it in the 10's every time so I know it's my stroke. My "straightness" will always be red because I use a pendulum stroke. Must be straight through piston to get this higher so I don't care about that parameter.
Come on and get one. Let's see how your stroke stands.

I left mine at the local Salvation Army

 

[kevoka]

I am wondering how something that adds weight to the butt of your your cue (totally changing the balance point and the swing weight) is going to help you get a consistent good stroke, when it is not attached.

Or do you have to play with it forever after getting a high score on the stroke?

 

[Bobkitty]

I am wondering how something that adds weight to the butt of your your cue (totally changing the balance point and the swing weight) is going to help you get a consistent good stroke, when it is not attached.

Or do you have to play with it forever after getting a high score on the stroke?

It weighs 1 oz. Not too much. I will leave it on there.

 

[ejasons]

I got one last week, and was getting rather terrible results on the most important (IMO) "steering" category, saying that I was steering to the left (I'm left-handed). Explains why I usually miss to the right when I miss, plus that I seemingly have to put my head at random positions in order to shoot straight.

So, I've tried all kinds of things to counteract it, changing how I stand, where I put the cue, upper-body alignment, etc. The _only_ think that has worked so far is to curl my wrist in a fair bit (like a lot of players do, but which I've always avoided). When I do that, I get 10/10 on the steering, and very good on the others. And can indeed make straight shots pretty consistently. I've never before really been able to get the pendulum stroke to work...

But, feels like the wrong thing to do. I'm also in the Portland area, and have had instructors look at my stroke and stance, but they didn't see anything wrong. Any ideas about how else I might accomplish this, or do you think that the curl is an okay thing to do? (For all I know, it will fall apart in a few days anyway, like all of my "quick" fixes...)

 

[Bobkitty]

I got one last week, and was getting rather terrible results on the most important (IMO) "steering" category, saying that I was steering to the left (I'm left-handed). Explains why I usually miss to the right when I miss, plus that I seemingly have to put my head at random positions in order to shoot straight.

So, I've tried all kinds of things to counteract it, changing how I stand, where I put the cue, upper-body alignment, etc. The _only_ think that has worked so far is to curl my wrist in a fair bit (like a lot of players do, but which I've always avoided). When I do that, I get 10/10 on the steering, and very good on the others. And can indeed make straight shots pretty consistently. I've never before really been able to get the pendulum stroke to work...

But, feels like the wrong thing to do. I'm also in the Portland area, and have had instructors look at my stroke and stance, but they didn't see anything wrong. Any ideas about how else I might accomplish this, or do you think that the curl is an okay thing to do? (For all I know, it will fall apart in a few days anyway, like all of my "quick" fixes...)

You might go see Robin Dreyer in Portland. robindreyer.com.

I've found I have a left steer also but it's usually up into the 8 or 9's so I don't worry about it too much. How are you doing on follow through? In one day I've been getting it around 8 or so from below 6. Just easing into the shot with acceleration instead of jerking it. I will not rest until I can maintain 10's Work to do.

 

[Texdance]

Is there any proof, of any kind, that getting good feedback from this device produces higher runs?

Better CB accuracy? More accurate ball pocketing?

A bump in you FargoRate or APA rating?

Anything beyond anecdotal accounts?

Lou Figueroa

I'd like to know if the device actually measures what it claims to measure, and if it can be calibrated to a standard.

I don't expect a little chip surrounded by plastic, set in rubber, to withstand the shock of hitting balls for long. But even at that, I think the weak link is the on/off switch; they have been using those crappy things in flashlights for awhile and they don't last long.

 

[johnnysd]

I am not sure if the Digicue blue will help peoples strokes or not. I tried one that a teammate bought Saturday and it was interesting. I was never bad by the ratings but the shots it liked the best were also the ones I hit the most pure. And it did seem to help a little with understanding how fast my transition was in the through stroke.So there may be some benefit.

One thing I will say is this. Yes, there are a ton of golf aids out there but the parallel that people are trying to make that pros do not use them is incorrect. In fact, there is a launch monitor called the Trackman and a significant percentage of the top golfers in the world use one regularly. Not only does it tell a golfer exactly what they do in their swing, it also pointed out that the ball flight rules accepted as fact for a very long time were completely wrong.

Obviously the pool stroke is much simpler, but if golfers improve by learning the characteristics of their swings, it seems pool players of all levels might be helped by knowing better the characteristics of their strokes.

 

[Bobkitty]

I am not sure if the Digicue blue will help peoples strokes or not. I tried one that a teammate bought Saturday and it was interesting. I was never bad by the ratings but the shots it liked the best were also the ones I hit the most pure. And it did seem to help a little with understanding how fast my transition was in the through stroke.So there may be some benefit.

One thing I will say is this. Yes, there are a ton of golf aids out there but the parallel that people are trying to make that pros do not use them is incorrect. In fact, there is a launch monitor called the Trackman and a significant percentage of the top golfers in the world use one regularly. Not only does it tell a golfer exactly what they do in their swing, it also pointed out that the ball flight rules accepted as fact for a very long time were completely wrong.

Obviously the pool stroke is much simpler, but if golfers improve by learning the characteristics of their swings, it seems pool players of all levels might be helped by knowing better the characteristics of their strokes.

Good post. I bought one and then took it to my teacher and had him use it. He has an amazing stroke and watching him peg the parameters all the way to the right the first time he used it (the top) convinced me this device is a great monitor. The only things I worry about are tip shear and follow through as I'm good on the others. Working with it yesterday for about 4 hours, my stroke has changed and now I'm about 7-8 on the follow through scale. I'll keep this going until I'm around 9-10 like my instuctor. It is acceleration through the cue ball with a smooth steady stroke.

 

[jokrswylde]

"Tin Cup."

Renee Russo.

hubba.

hubba.

Lou Figueroa

Please post video of you playing.

Prairie Dog at the pool hall:

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Just busting your balls man! Glad you found a product that you like and helps you. Some of the problem is the abrasiveness your posts have in them. Calling people scared to try something just because they don't want to for whatever reason. It works for you, that should be good enough!:thumbup:

 

[Bobkitty]

Prairie Dog at the pool hall:




Just busting your balls man! Glad you found a product that you like and helps you. Some of the problem is the abrasiveness your posts have in them. Calling people scared to try something just because they don't want to for whatever reason. It works for you, that should be good enough!:thumbup:

Funny picture! And you are correct. People do not want to try new stuff and it's not up to me to figure out why.

 

[nine_ball6970]

The Digicue results posted in another thread for Jayson Shaw showed that his stroke is almost perfect in every parameter measured. Go figure.

 

[Bobkitty]

The Digicue results posted in another thread for Jayson Shaw showed that his stroke is almost perfect in every parameter measured. Go figure.

Wow. That about matches my teaching coach. Amazing stroke!


https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=467573&highlight=jayson&page=2 Post number 22.

 

[jrctherake]

Funny picture! And you are correct. People do not want to try new stuff and it's not up to me to figure out why.

You are partly right and partly wrong.

1. Some people don't "want" to change. They are ok with things as is.

2. Some people "shouldn't" change. Their game is so strong it would literally STUPID to go and change it.

 

[jeephawk]

I am not sure if the Digicue blue will help peoples strokes or not. I tried one that a teammate bought Saturday and it was interesting. I was never bad by the ratings but the shots it liked the best were also the ones I hit the most pure. And it did seem to help a little with understanding how fast my transition was in the through stroke.So there may be some benefit.

One thing I will say is this. Yes, there are a ton of golf aids out there but the parallel that people are trying to make that pros do not use them is incorrect. In fact, there is a launch monitor called the Trackman and a significant percentage of the top golfers in the world use one regularly. Not only does it tell a golfer exactly what they do in their swing, it also pointed out that the ball flight rules accepted as fact for a very long time were completely wrong.

Obviously the pool stroke is much simpler, but if golfers improve by learning the characteristics of their swings, it seems pool players of all levels might be helped by knowing better the characteristics of their strokes.

Trackman provides a lot of information, not necessarily what a player does in their swing in a very general way. Two players can have completely different looking swings to the naked eye and have similar numbers and have nearly identical swings to the naked eye and have very different numbers. And nothing wrong with having more information, you just have to know what to do with it.

Don't know anything about this cue device or why someone would just keep arguing and arguing about how great it is. Seems like the question is does it "force" a person into a particular stroke pattern the device has deemed the "ideal"? That wouldn't be something that would seem to make sense for most folks, since I'm assuming there is room for all sorts of variation in pool strokes (maybe a lot less than golf, lol) and the bottom line is do you hit the cue ball the way you intend to hit it and can you repeat that, regardless of what the stroke looks like or whether it "satisfies" the device.

Obviously, if it helps someone improve they should use it, but it seems like it may be far from the universal aid it is touted to be.