You have a lot of answers for person who has ZERO I-Trades and has been a member since May of this year.
Pookster's reputation here is pretty solid. He earned that rep.
dlw6801
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You have a lot of answers for person who has ZERO I-Trades and has been a member since May of this year.
Pookster's reputation here is pretty solid. He earned that rep.
I should also add that pookster has 37 transactions completed and 100% feedback..... lets see here, you have 235 posts and ZERO transactions. Go find something else to do besides busting up pookster. He is the one without the money or the cue right now.
Agree with this post too. I'm not taking Pooksters side, or anyone else's at this point, but I do question why folks are defending the seller when he pretty much still hasn't responded one way or the other as to what his intentions are going forward. He's clearly reading this post and the other one involving the sale itself. I would be upset if I were him and a legitimate seller because of the speed of Pookster's accusation, but....I also would have responded by now with what I planned to do one way or another. Still curious to see how this all plays out.
The temp. goes up when you open your mouth, all that hot air comes out! :angry:
The actual facts indicate to me that the seller has handled the entire matter very poorly, and the buyer feels like he's getting porked.
Anybody I have ever dealt with on AZ would of had a tracking number by now.
If this is just a misunderstanding, what is so complicated about getting it straightened out?
With that said...:sorry:... I'm seizing this rare opportunity to announce that I will soon have a couple of new OB sneakies with the new
evolution "plus" technology, which is solid maple SR6 construction vs. the laminated SR6 construction.
Cocobolo sneaky, 19 oz. OB-1+ construction, Tiger Everest tip, great price, better deal in my opinion, out with the old
and in with the new><:smile:
Thanks
With these things there's always two sides, so when you ask for opinions on a forum that's what your going to get. I don't mind if you don't agree with me, some will some won't. That's life, and it would be pretty tedious if we were all the same.
In this case, I think communication from the seller was and still is poor. I think, however, that the attacks on the seller are disproportionate, especially since his post from yesterday pretty much shows that he isn't trying to con the buyer, and hasn't sold the cue twice. His continued silence is worrying though, so I suppose all we can do is wait and see.
The sad thing is that no one is going to win this one.
To clarify, I do not buy or sell on this forum, and given recent events I think I'll stick to ebay- that way I'm protected when I buy or sell. I've got 100% positive feedback, same as most sellers. Some people come to this forum without buying and selling and their opinion is as valid as someone with hundreds of trades. The amount of times I see someone saying 'coming from someone with 0 itrader' in response to a perfectly valid point is ridiculous- the last person who said it to me was xander2882 (who had 100% positive itrades) and we all know the story there.
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What is ridiculous is defending the seller. Here are the facts:
1. Seller has the money and the cue
2. The buyer has neither
Which leads to the comments about you having 0 transactions.
Thanks
With these things there's always two sides, so when you ask for opinions on a forum that's what your going to get. I don't mind if you don't agree with me, some will some won't. That's life, and it would be pretty tedious if we were all the same.
In this case, I think communication from the seller was and still is poor. I think, however, that the attacks on the seller are disproportionate, especially since his post from yesterday pretty much shows that he isn't trying to con the buyer, and hasn't sold the cue twice. His continued silence is worrying though, so I suppose all we can do is wait and see.
The sad thing is that no one is going to win this one.
To clarify, I do not buy or sell on this forum, and given recent events I think I'll stick to ebay- that way I'm protected when I buy or sell. I've got 100% positive feedback, same as most sellers. Some people come to this forum without buying and selling and their opinion is as valid as someone with hundreds of trades. The amount of times I see someone saying 'coming from someone with 0 itrader' in response to a perfectly valid point is ridiculous- the last person who said it to me was xander2882 (who had 100% positive itrades) and we all know the story there.
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Much better. As for buying here on AZB, I have purchased some minor things, but I check the for sale thread daily. I always keep an eye out for a possible deal on a nice cue, but I've never actually bought a cue thru here because, well, most are overpriced by folks simply flipping in my own opinion. The deals tend to go very quickly, as can be expected. There are good buys on here for tips, chalk, etc that are worth checking on from time to time. It's odd that I only recently received my first itrader feedback, so if and when I ever purchase, I try to look at things like length of membership and pay attention to other posts by the seller, to see if he's in good standing with most of the community on here. There are probably a very few select individuals I'd trust sending serious cue money to, and that's because of situations like this one.
All that said, I prefer to think along the lines of seeing the good in the human race and try to lean towards trusting most individuals. Sometimes you just have to be careful. Situations like this are what gives merit to that. Seems lately there have been a handful of folks selling warped or defective cues on here, and scamming other folks which ruins it for the rest of us. It's tough to monitor but you would hope that at some point maybe a moderator would contact the seller and request some sort of response to continue membership. You don't want to drive folks away, and I realize the 'can of worms' it could open by banning folks, but I'd rather have a few less individuals on here, and have a cleaner forum than to have to worry about ending up in a situation like this.
Still curiously waiting to see what happens here.
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With these things there's always two sides, so when you ask for opinions on a forum that's what your going to get. I don't mind if you don't agree with me, some will some won't. That's life, and it would be pretty tedious if we were all the same.
In this case, I think communication from the seller was and still is poor. I think, however, that the attacks on the seller are disproportionate, especially since his post from yesterday pretty much shows that he isn't trying to con the buyer, and hasn't sold the cue twice. His continued silence is worrying though, so I suppose all we can do is wait and see.
The sad thing is that no one is going to win this one.
To clarify, I do not buy or sell on this forum, and given recent events I think I'll stick to ebay- that way I'm protected when I buy or sell. I've got 100% positive feedback, same as most sellers. Some people come to this forum without buying and selling and their opinion is as valid as someone with hundreds of trades. The amount of times I see someone saying 'coming from someone with 0 itrader' in response to a perfectly valid point is ridiculous- the last person who said it to me was xander2882 (who had 100% positive itrades) and we all know the story there.
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In a weak moment back in March I ordered a Joss West on Ebay, and in the 6-weeks to follow I had a Paypal-Ebay battle that would blow you away.
In addition, I have never seen a greater discrepancy in condition between the pics and the actual cue.
The cue was too trashed to even have restored, the only redeeming quality was the vivid JW-sideways W, but the backside of the butt cap was cracked in several places, again not shown in the pics.
The butt and both shafts were badly warped, the butt had a horrible buzz, the "original shafts" were not useable, there were nicks into the wood that were not playing nicks, and the seller was a liar...welcome to buying custom cues on Ebay when the seller isn't a known AZ member.
In 8-years I have sent back one cue on AZ, and I have had one cue sent back.
In comparison, I have sent back several cues bought on Ebay, and the rest of them should of been sent back (except for the cheap stuff)
I remember 12-years ago buying 2-brand new Meucci HOF models on Ebay, and I ended up getting all of the ridiculous problems resolved directly through Meucci, because the Ebay seller hung me out to dry.
For the most part Ebay is a dumping ground, and AZ is not.
AZ is less structured so you have to be smart, but things are much better over here than on Ebay.
Yep.....all the seller has to do is hit the refund button on Pookster's payment, and sell the cue as he wishes. This all goes away...but, it never should have started. Pookster lived up to his side of the agreement.
Joe
I agree on that one, Ebay does have a purpose other than custom cues.
The reason I'm speaking out a little on this deal is because this isn't Ebay.
We have a culture of integrity over here which ,more than makes up for the lack of a
structured environment when it comes to buying or selling custom cues.
On AZ there is a higher sense of urgency to communicate and get things done,
and that's not typically an issue on Ebay.
On Ebay it is what it is, and Ebay sellers have so-called "policies"
Before you venture back to the NPR, just remember that not one thing has ever been settled in the NPR.
At least in the main forum and the WFS we get results><:smile:
The NPR still thinks that the Humpty Dumpty situation was another conspiracy theory...did he actually fall, or was he pushed?
The NPR could not even settle the Humpty Dumpty assassination attempt, and you think we have problems over here.
ok still no respond from the seller...Dexter william if that's your name cause that's who I sent the payment to.....This is your last chance to ship the cue or refund my money or I will post your picture everywhere on the web and facebook also.I save your pic from your old avatar bro cause I just had that feeling that you were gonna change your avatar cause I believe it was your pic in your old avatar....Damm I should of become an FBI or CSI instead! MAKE IT RIGHT brother!
ok case closed...The seller has admitted and apologized for what he did and sent me back $100 out of $160 like we agree on and even though I am out of $60 and no cue but I'm glad that this is over and I hope he find the right track for his future and I also forgive him for what he did and hope he won't do it to others in the future
So he is still stealing $60 from you and are perfectly fine with rolling over and accepting that with a smile? Wow. Just wow.
What exactly did the seller actually end up admitting to you about what he did?
I don't know about the rest of you, but I think dlw6801 should be red repped into oblivion. He gave fake phone numbers. He repeatedly refused to say whether or not he would ever ship the cue or give a refund when confronted about it in his for sale thread. After the buyer had to file a paypal dispute because the seller would neither ship the cue nor give a refund, the seller then lies to paypal and says he shipped the cue and gives them a fake tracking number, further trying to scam not only the buyer but paypal as well. And then finally after days of public fighting where the seller was still refusing to give a refund or ship the cue, the seller finally agrees to give a partial refund only in an attempt to keep the buyer from posting his picture, and in the hopes to have all the publicity go away. He is still stealing the other part of the payment though. The fact that he wouldn't insist on refunding the full amount proves beyond any doubt that he was trying to scam from the beginning (as if any more proof was needed). He can be repped in the first post here:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=368843
it's obvious that he was try to scam from beginning but I think he realized that he fvck up and decide to make it right and I have all the PM from him but should I posted again or can all this just end? cause I'm the one who out of cue and $60
I've read this whole thing and I guess I'm still at a loss. As I've understood it:
1. Pook sent money to dex.
2. Less than 24 hrs later, Pook files a dispute.
3. Dex doesn't send the cue because clearly he got a message from paypal informing him of the dispute.
4. Drama
5. Drama
6. Drama
7. Somehow and in some way Pook convinces dex to refund only $100 of the $160.
8. All is apparently well with the world.
I see red flags and banners and billboards and planes in the sky making bigger red flags with both parties.
Dex may have been scamming but it seems scammer - esque also to file the dispute within 24 hours.
Pook, you kinda weird me out with that but yes get all your money.
Dex, if you are scamming, you need to be taken out and beaten.
Pleasant rolls to all the good folks on AZ.
1. Pook sent money to dex.
2. Less than 24 hrs later, Pook files a dispute.
3. Dex doesn't send the cue because clearly he got a message from paypal informing him of the dispute.
4. Drama
5. Drama
6. Drama
7. Somehow and in some way Pook convinces dex to refund only $100 of the $160.
8. All is apparently well with the world.
I see red flags and banners and billboards and planes in the sky making bigger red flags with both parties.
Dex may have been scamming but it seems scammer - esque also to file the dispute within 24 hours.
Pook, you kinda weird me out with that but yes get all your money.
Dex, if you are scamming, you need to be taken out and beaten.
Pleasant rolls to all the good folks on AZ.