Do cues, and all these tips make a difference?
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LancerV said:
if that's 9ball he was talking about, there's lots of things that go into running racks besides just pocketing. but if we're talking just missing/making shots, maybe he would have made twice as many with a good cue.
good equipment makes a difference,,,,otherwise you wouldn't read things like "john doe ran 187 balls WITH A HOUSE CUE".
i think i read somewhere that if you give a pro a broomstick with a good tip he/she will clear out a pool hall in a few hours, but for us humans, not only does good equipment give you consistency (especially if you play at a hall that has crappy house cues), it also gives you confidence in your game, which is always a plus.
Name your pro. If SHE 
wants to glue a tip on a broomstick I will have to try HER some
wants to glue a tip on a broomstick I will have to try HER some
I was beaten once with a mop handle THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A TIP ON IT. Be careful what you get yourself into...Kinda like Danny B. playing pool with "chopsticks"...don't fall for it.Black-Balled said:Name your pro. If SHE
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Vonn and Cap U2R2 funny! I will also try HER if SHE chooses to use chopstix**chopstix and broom handle to be chosen by me.
bruin70 said:
There are good house cues, I have a few at my house, along with a couple of not-so-good house cues. If you took Efrens cue away from him, and gave him a good house cue to play with, he would do just fine I think. If you do the same with a shortstop, he/she will be the same shortstop. Take a league player that uses house cues, loan him/her OHBs Balabushka, and you've got the same player still. It's not the arrow, it's the indian. I will absolutely concede that using bad equipment can degrade your game, but again, there are good house cues.
The fact that you read things like "john doe ran 187 balls WITH A HOUSE CUE" is a result of the author being a two piece cue bigot, imo. But aren't we all
Dave, who plays with a two-piece Falcon cue (M5) with points and inlays ...
I think for most beginning players and many advanced players even, playing with your own cue will go a long way toward shooting more consistently.
I know a guy who always plays with a house cue and is quite a good shooter. Well he got talked into joining a league, which required him to play at other bars than his regular hangout. One of these bars had really bad house cues. So this guy borrows the house cue he normally plays with to take to the other bar. And he played just as good as he always does.
So what he is doing is always playing with the *same* cue. It is a house cue, but he always plays with the same house cue. (One day the bar he plays in decided to get new tips for all their cues including this guys favorite cue. Well his game went downhill with a quickness!)
Then I've read about pro players who have had something nasty happen to their favorite cue. (Shaft break or whatever.) Then not play as well with their new cue.
I've seen a lot local players switch cues, then have their game go down the drain. Or even just get a new tip and have their game go down the drain.
So I think it is *most* important to always play with; the same cue, same type of tip, same hardness of tip, and same radius of tip (nickel, dime, etc.).
Second most important, if you are going to get your own cue to play with, might as well experiment with different shafts/tips and use what works best for you. Then stick with that same specification of cue forever.
If you have been playing for 20 years with a certain type of cue, then switching to something totally new and different probably will hurt your game.
I've only been playing seriously for 2 years. So I am going with all the latest in new technology. I switched to a Meucci butt and a Predator 314 shaft in January and also changed the weight of my cue. (Finally figured out what I wanted.) I was getting into the money in tournaments before switching, then have not done this much for the past 4 months. I've been in the money the last 3 nights at tournaments and won 1st last night in a small local tournament. So I'm just now (after 4 months) starting to feel comfortable with my new cue. It was hard at first to adjust to the weight change. And the hardest thing to adjust to has been aiming with english on long shots and my new low deflection shaft.
Also to be fair, I've also been learning/practicing a *ton* of new shots, so this has also thrown my game off the last couple of months.
Once before, I switched shaft size and my tip/tip radius, and that took me two months to adjust to. I went from a 13mm nickel shaped medium leather tip to a 12.5mm dime shaped pig skin hard tip.
I know a guy who always plays with a house cue and is quite a good shooter. Well he got talked into joining a league, which required him to play at other bars than his regular hangout. One of these bars had really bad house cues. So this guy borrows the house cue he normally plays with to take to the other bar. And he played just as good as he always does.
So what he is doing is always playing with the *same* cue. It is a house cue, but he always plays with the same house cue. (One day the bar he plays in decided to get new tips for all their cues including this guys favorite cue. Well his game went downhill with a quickness!)
Then I've read about pro players who have had something nasty happen to their favorite cue. (Shaft break or whatever.) Then not play as well with their new cue.
I've seen a lot local players switch cues, then have their game go down the drain. Or even just get a new tip and have their game go down the drain.
So I think it is *most* important to always play with; the same cue, same type of tip, same hardness of tip, and same radius of tip (nickel, dime, etc.).
Second most important, if you are going to get your own cue to play with, might as well experiment with different shafts/tips and use what works best for you. Then stick with that same specification of cue forever.
If you have been playing for 20 years with a certain type of cue, then switching to something totally new and different probably will hurt your game.
I've only been playing seriously for 2 years. So I am going with all the latest in new technology. I switched to a Meucci butt and a Predator 314 shaft in January and also changed the weight of my cue. (Finally figured out what I wanted.) I was getting into the money in tournaments before switching, then have not done this much for the past 4 months. I've been in the money the last 3 nights at tournaments and won 1st last night in a small local tournament. So I'm just now (after 4 months) starting to feel comfortable with my new cue. It was hard at first to adjust to the weight change. And the hardest thing to adjust to has been aiming with english on long shots and my new low deflection shaft.
Also to be fair, I've also been learning/practicing a *ton* of new shots, so this has also thrown my game off the last couple of months.
Once before, I switched shaft size and my tip/tip radius, and that took me two months to adjust to. I went from a 13mm nickel shaped medium leather tip to a 12.5mm dime shaped pig skin hard tip.
I don't know if I adjust fast or I'm just not good enough to notice a difference, but I can typically pick up a house cue and play just as well as I can with my cue, assuming the house cue has a decent tip and doesn't look like a bow.
LancerV said:
I can drive cross country in my '94 Nissan Altima, but I'd rather do it in a '05 Lincoln Town Car.
I think a player whether his is good or bad will play somewhat better with good custom equipment as opposed to using good house equipment and a lot better vs. using what is commonly found as house equipment. Maybe enough to justify the cost, maybe not; but owning a nice cue is about more than pocketing more balls and that's what justifys the cost IMO.
Feel is something one adjusts himself to. So having his own cue will make his position play better than with a cue he is not used to. But I am not knocking house cues as cuemakers have spent a lot of time and energy trying to make a joint that will feel like a house cue. The Carom Billiard cues come the closest. But I have only known one good player who dragged his old house cue into every pool room he went to. Local legend has it that a top local player here once grabbed a house cue off the wall with a slip on tip and proceeded to beat Allen Hopkins in a gambling match on a bar box. But that guy played in that bar all the time with those cues and was used to them. He was also on tables he knew like the back of his hand. He really caught Allen by surprise.
Chris
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Chris
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It Aint' The Arrow....it's The Indian !!!
Masayoshi said:
This quote was originally referring to Mosconi. Some one said if you put a tip on a broom stick Willie will not only beat anyone with it, he will then use it to sweep the floors.
I really don't think that anyone could play with a tip on a broom stick and beat a decent player. All I think this was referring to (besides how good Willie was) is that a good tip is more important that the joint, inlays, ferrule etc. Than to take it one step further maybe the chalk is the most important factor. You can have the best of everthing and if you don't chalk up you may miscue.