Do you feel like if something "clicked" you would be great???

Sort of my cup of tea

chefdrew said:
Do you feel that if something in your mental or physical game "clicked" that you would jump up a few balls or possibly even be a pro contender?


Have you ever figured out what it is/was and finally fixed it and it came together?

I am having an internal struggle where I seem to not how to get past a certain skill and it's driving me crazy...
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This area is my cup of tea. I've worked with how to view things perception wise and what seems to work growing into what is a mature and simplified view that is comfortable for play.

I'm also like everyone else I have a job, or part time job and a home so I can't devote all of my time to playing pool.

I played a tournament a few years back on a whim as I really don't have time to do things like this very often and that very thing happened.

From the work and writing I was working with the thing clicked and everything that I had been using aligned and I blew through a crowd of folks to second place in the event the races were to 2. I had people come up and tell me ...man never seen you play like this, you look like a professional. What was awesome about it was I knew I was going to nail em when I stroked. I had it dialed in. I lost for first because I broke dry. I never got back to the table.

Its great when it clicks and you walk away from it, thinking how did this happen and next time its a little easier to get there.
 
People here seem to be obsessed with the idea that they, personally, have the ability to become a top professional pool player. That if only they had the right training, or more time to play, or some other roadblock went away, they could be a great player.

It's just weird. Nobody on golf forums thinks they can compete with Tiger Woods and nobody on football forums thinks they could have been in the NFL, because they realize the talent gap is that wide. That gap is no smaller or less hard to bridge in pool.
 
chefdrew said:
Do you feel that if something in your mental or physical game "clicked" that you would jump up a few balls or possibly even be a pro contender?


Have you ever figured out what it is/was and finally fixed it and it came together?

I am having an internal struggle where I seem to not how to get past a certain skill and it's driving me crazy...
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Honestly I think a lot of it is genetic talent. If you look at most of the top players, they became very good very fast. Their ceiling of potential is higher than ordinary folks. Most of us rise to a certain level +/- after about 5 years of playing -- depending on how much they play of course -- but that's about it, +/- of course. Working with an instructor will help, but it is not going to take you beyond your natural abilities -- it's just going to maximize if you work hard at it.

That's my opinion -- but if someone comes up with the special secret that will miraculously bump me up a couple more levels, I'll pay, lol :D
 
1pocket said:
Honestly I think a lot of it is genetic talent. If you look at most of the top players, they became very good very fast. Their ceiling of potential is higher than ordinary folks. Most of us rise to a certain level +/- after about 5 years of playing -- depending on how much they play of course -- but that's about it, +/- of course. Working with an instructor will help, but it is not going to take you beyond your natural abilities -- it's just going to maximize if you work hard at it.

That's my opinion -- but if someone comes up with the special secret that will miraculously bump me up a couple more levels, I'll pay, lol :D
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That depends on how you play now.
Most people have their game over rated by about 2 or 3 balls unless they are trying to make a game.
The main reason they do that, is because they base their playing ability on their top gear, instead of what they average.
So if you could just bring your A game every time , you improve 2 or 3 balls .
That is not so hard to do , it just means lots of table time and drills and competition with people you have a chance against.
Also learning new shots and ideas
It does absolutely no good to go play someone you need 3 balls from , even.
All you are doing is breaking down your confidence.
Plus, you will start doing crazy things to try to win , and create bad habits.
I would say if you got the Dr Dave stuff or Tor Lowrys and spent a year of serious effort , most people would improve much more than they ever dreamed possible.
Sometimes I wish I had that info available when I was young, but then I would have ended up like 99% of the other good players.
Broke.
Please send my money, I ain't broke , but things is gettin tight!
 
It's all about attitude.

Most people carry a ton of emotional baggage with them everywhere they go. If you can find pure joy in playing and practicing, you'll stop judging yourself and will keep out of your own way.

I made the most progress in my game when I was thoroughly enjoying playing. I remember one time being so anxious to get to the pool room to practice, I left my car running for 5 hours after I parked it. I don't know how it didn't get stolen on a busy NYC street.

Get rid of the emotional baggage and you'll see improvement.
 
FranCrimi said:
It's all about attitude.



Most people carry a ton of emotional baggage with them everywhere they go. If you can find pure joy in playing and practicing, you'll stop judging yourself and will keep out of your own way.



I made the most progress in my game when I was thoroughly enjoying playing. I remember one time being so anxious to get to the pool room to practice, I left my car running for 5 hours after I parked it. I don't know how it didn't get stolen on a busy NYC street.



Get rid of the emotional baggage and you'll see improvement.
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Partly, I think this can be lumped in with what I believe is most important besides the requisite skill set, that is confidence. A true unwavering belief in your abilities.
 
I think most of you touched on it...that is the focus and discipline it takes to stay in stroke and competing at a high level. It is hard to get better when you are hitting the balls bad and I have always said, when I am shooting well, "man, if I could hit like this all the time my game would skyrocket"!!!
 
I once felt like that. Now I feel I already had the "click". Now its just about staying in stroke and shooting a lot and getting that practice in.
 
FranCrimi said:
It's all about attitude.

Most people carry a ton of emotional baggage with them everywhere they go. If you can find pure joy in playing and practicing, you'll stop judging yourself and will keep out of your own way.

I made the most progress in my game when I was thoroughly enjoying playing. I remember one time being so anxious to get to the pool room to practice, I left my car running for 5 hours after I parked it. I don't know how it didn't get stolen on a busy NYC street.

Get rid of the emotional baggage and you'll see improvement.
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I dunno i would call that anxious. Just sounds like a brain fart to me.
You ever run out of gas while driving?
:D:D:eek:
 
John Disque said:

The concentration-level in takes to play at a consistently high level is higher than average people understand... Even players who've been around the game for many years never pick up on this fact.

The advice you're getting about seeking the help from professional players is good advice but make sure this pro is consistently great and he/she knows how to instruct and inspire. Many pros might not be aware that they naturally concentrate at a higher than average level.

A great instructor will sit back and watch you and then list the things you need to work on. He/she will then monitor your progress --- but none of them can increase your level of concentration.
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None?

I can! I'm not an instructor but if I can do it then they can too.
 
chefdrew said:
I think most of you touched on it...that is the focus and discipline it takes to stay in stroke and competing at a high level. It is hard to get better when you are hitting the balls bad and I have always said, when I am shooting well, "man, if I could hit like this all the time my game would skyrocket"!!!
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My feeling is that just by this post, you're not that close. It also tells me that going back to your original post, there are several things that you've probably not learned that could click your game to jump whatever gap you need to jump. But becoming great, that's a tough question... great like pro speed is one thing; great like being a top player in your county is another.

As a few people have pointed out, the gap to a pro level is much larger than most egos care to admit.


Freddie <~~~ can't see that far of a gap from here
 
I have noticed that for about two hours every time I play it is like magic...I almost can't miss a ball unless I do something stupid...and often it is that "stupid" shot that breaks me free from that zone where I can see and do without much effort...I know players that are pro level, shoot with a gentleman locally who has beaten a US Open champ while I was watching...though I am years away from his speed, there are hours here and there where I am able to stay out in front...would be great though if it just all fell into place and I could suddenly shoot like that every game...but that is the struggle...isn't it?
 
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