Do you get mad when a player forfeits they're match...read more

Does it bother you when your opponent forfeits the match?

  • No, it doesn't bother me.

    Votes: 33 100.0%

  • Yes, it bothers me for personal reasons.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    33
mattman

mattman

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Playing in league few weeks back. I broke and ran all my balls (playing 8-ball) and was getting to get down on the 8-ball. The opponent comes over and pushes the 8-ball in with his stick, shakes my hand and congrads me on a good game.

Personally, it doesn't bother me....I could have miscued. Also, I always make the opponent shoot. I don't care if they have ball in hand on the 8-ball. There's always that slim chance something could go wrong.

Anywho, on the way home, one of my teammate's husband just started going off on the guy for doing that. Said it was disrespectful, this and that. I have never heard this before...I mean this guy was mad. Like I said, personally it didn't bother me at all.
 
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I've seen too many top pros dog baby shots for the cheese, it is obvious that it CAN happen to anyone.

Therefore, when a player foolishly gives you a shot...especially for the match...no one should look the gift horse in the mouth and CERTAINLY should not get mad about it.

And it is the OPPOSITE of being disrespectful. Top pros give shots all the time even in big money gambling matches....out of respect, not disrespect,.

Regards,
Jim
 
doesnt bother me at all but i can see where it would bother some people. most of the higher rated players in my area will concede a game if the the 8 ball is a hanger. i dont see it as being disrespecful though. i look at it more along the lines of the player about to lose respecting the opponents game if that makes ant sense.
 
Sounds to me like you've got the right attitude. I've never really understood how people can get upset when their opponent concedes a game. (And like you said, you could've miscued!)
 
I have strong feelings that the player should shoot every shot, all the way to the end. I know some players do not practice this way, thinking it is some form of professional courtesy.

That said, I saw Ryan McCreesh miss a straight-in 9ball in the side pocket for the match win at a Joss tournament. He miscued.

JAM
 
Conceding the match is fine with me, but if they were to upset a game in the middle of a set, I think thats a little different.
 
NO Im happy- Im also happy when the opponent misses on the three and then rakes all the balls. When you suck, you have to get your games somehow.
 
I'll often concede a game like that, but only on the game ball (not 3 or 4 shots out) and never on the match ball.

The overall shot has to be pretty straight in and less then 3 feet from the cueball to the pocket. I consider it mark of respect that I'm showing to my opponent. I don't care if I get the same back. I have also had it taken the wrong way before.
 
JAM said:
I have strong feelings that the player should shoot every shot, all the way to the end. I know some players do not practice this way, thinking it is some form of professional courtesy.

That said, I saw Ryan McCreesh miss a straight-in 9ball in the side pocket for the match win at a Joss tournament. He miscued.

JAM
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Ha! Ryan does have that 36" long bridge placement!

I had Ryan 4-3 going to 5, BIH on the 7, 8& 9 out in the open. I missed the 7 WITH BIH (I didn't like the angle!). Guess I am glad to hear both our items here were part of a larger, karmic thing.

OT: My standard reply to those that think it is wrong to concede in the situation described is, "you want to bet anything from here?"
 
I don't have a problem if someone gives me the 8 or 9, I don't care. For all I know, I could have screwed the shot up somehow.

If it is someone I know and they have a relatively easy shot on the 8 or 9, or they get BIH on it I will give it to them. On a hard shot or the match winning shot, even if you are my best friend, you are shooting it.

If the person is a ***** or whatever you want to call them, they are shooting every single damn ball! Not giving them a damn thing.
 
mattman said:
Playing in league few weeks back. I broke and ran all my balls (playing 8-ball) and was getting to get down on the 8-ball. The opponent comes over and pushes the 8-ball in with his stick, shakes my hand and congrads me on a good game.

Personally, it doesn't bother me....I could have miscued. Also, I always make the opponent shoot. I don't care if they have ball in hand on the 8-ball. There's always that slim chance something could go wrong.

Anywho, on the way home, one of my teammate's husband just started going off on the guy for doing that. Said it was disrespectful, this and that. I have never heard this before...I mean this guy was mad. Like I said, personally it didn't bother me at all.
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It would only bother me if it was not a foregone conclusion that I would win. If it's a 2-foot straight shot, then I don't care if someone concedes it, but if it's a 4-ball out, I want to run the balls. I don't feel like I won if he concedes with too much game left.

That said, anyone who's really offended by your situation as you described it, has skin far too thin for most pool halls.

-Andrew
 
mattman said:
I could have miscued.
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That's exactly why they concede. If you are a bad player, they know you might miscued, scratch or lose the game.

When they concede, they are complimenting your skills. They know you will not miss, because you are a skillfull player.
 
hell I forfeit more matches than I win. :o I didnt play one at the Derby this year everytime I had to play something came up with work on the phone. I'm a great guy to draw.

If someone ever forfeited on me it would be a first, I have only played in a handful of tournments in my life, perhaps 10-12. I'd love it less work, its like a bye, dosent get any better. I'm just not a tournment guy, I have had guys quite on me gambling and that was ok, I'd rather shoot their nuts off than just have them hand me the $$$.
 
It's like conceding a putt in golf during match play....no biggee. While I'd personally rather putt it out or pocket the ball - the opponent has that right. What get's me is when it's EXPECTED in return. Usually it's expected when the shot or putt isn't quite a gimmee either....You don't HAVE to return the favor.

The raking balls after a miss early is what makes me laugh. You've usually got 'em when they start doing this...or maybe they play ok with a red-ass. LOL That isn't really a disrepectful thing either, just a hot head, and I might even egg that on a bit after they do it - "thanks, it'da been tough to get from the 6 to the 7" etc. :)
 
I voted, "no". What IS annoying though is when people concede games during the match when they have been dominating the match. For example, if they've kept control since the beginning and are up a few games to zero, and I finally get an open shot with three balls on the table. So they concede to keep me cold. I've even had this happen when warming up on practice tables before a tournament. It's like, come on man, why do you think they call this "practice"? Let me hit a ball here. :rolleyes:
 
WesleyW said:
That's exactly why they concede. If you are a bad player, they know you might miscued, scratch or lose the game.

When they concede, they are complimenting your skills. They know you will not miss, because you are a skillfull player.
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This sums up my toughts on the subject, but respectively, I never concede. In fact, a few weeks prior to this match, I was playing a match where I scratched and the opponent had only the 8-ball left. Instinctively, after scratching, I reached out and shook his hand. He asked, "does this mean I have to shoot the 8-ball". I replied with, "I think you better". He made it and I shook his hand again. Again, there was no disrespect making him shoot the shot, but there's always that slim chance and the game isn't over until all balls are down.
 
mattman said:
This sums up my toughts on the subject, but respectively, I never concede. In fact, a few weeks prior to this match, I was playing a match where I scratched and the opponent had only the 8-ball left. Instinctively, after scratching, I reached out and shook his hand. He asked, "does this mean I have to shoot the 8-ball". I replied with, "I think you better". He made it and I shook his hand again. Again, there was no disrespect making him shoot the shot, but there's always that slim chance and the game isn't over until all balls are down.
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Do you notice what's wrong with this story? :D
 
It does not bother me...I see it as a sign of respect.

I have raked a 9-ball many times...especially if you sell out on the 5 or something...If I gave up a easy run out to my opponent...

I hate winning on a dogged 9-ball.

However...

I have had players that have given up a 9-ball that was not a hanger, but was still a very makeable shot...(but also doggable)....then later in the match they will have some farly steep very doggable or scratchable shot and look at you like they are expecting you to give them the shot...:)
 
It really depends on the circumstances where I think it's okay and it's not. If you're conceding the match, I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever. They do that in most sports. It's like the final down in a football game. Nobody is rushing. They just put down one knee and walk off the field.

However, if it were team play, I think conceding the final ball of a match is disrespectful to your own team. In Vegas last year, my team was down 12-9 going to 13 against a strong Portugese team. I was playing. I broke, came up dry and sat down to watch my opponent run. The guy was amazing. He played the table so beautifully, his position was so perfect. He got perfectly straight on the 8-ball as planned from the very beginning and then he dogged it. He dogged it. He dogged it. I ran out the table to make it 12-10 and my teammates proceeded to win the next 3 games after me to win the match.

I kept thinking to myself, had that not been a team match, I would have been out of my chair, ready to shake his hand. I didn't. I stayed still for my teammates and to this day, I'm amazed by how it worked out. I can't say I'll never concede a match ball but I will say this - I'll never get upset over someone conceding it to me. I just take the win and move on.
 
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