Do you prefer glue on tip or screw on tip?
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seb9 said:
So let me get this straight. You claim to know so little about equipment that you need to ask stupid questions about screw on tips yet you have a Falcon cue and speak of its wood on wood joint?
You had me fooled at first, but yeah, you're a troll. Russ was right all along.
Icon of Sin said:
TF07 ferrule:slip the tip on for 9 ball, take the slip on off for snooker--when you need a smaller tip, with wood to wood contact, low deflection!
My next thread, which I expect to see more than 100,000 views, and be nominated the golden thread of the year,
"Should I chalk before, or after a shot?"
Can you start it for me, please?
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psykoyow said:
Astroglide is what you want
Seems our troll has hit the road...
Probabably over on a Mustang Message Board asking what brand of muffler bearings and blinker fluid the members like best
Slider said:
Lol, thats exactly what it means! Well, for a few minutes at least. Just feel silly being so naive. I actually started feeling sorry for him in the previous "murdered animal" thread. I don't have much experience with trolls. Guess ya learn something everyday!
hemicudas said:
What surprises me is that there have been no real evidence provided that suggests one is truly better than the other. The range-of-selection issue is about the closest I've seen to a real reason for one over the other. Call me a silly old engineer, but deciding that something is inferior because of the various cultural biases at play is bogus. I'm not saying that one is better or worse than the other, I'm saying that the arguments presented in this thread are for the most part bogus. Having said that, thanks to those who presented some real information rather than snobbish opinions and repetitive teasing.
Pool, a backwards world still dominated by gossip and opinion rather than scientific method.
Dave
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I too am an engineer, although not really old. I would think that you would have some scientific insight as too why a firm, permanent part of a cue stick would be better than a slip on, external attachment that could easily fall off, and is a much different shape than the original cue tip.DaveK said:
Please refrain from asking for scientific evidence that these slip on tips are not as good of performers as permanent tips. Ridiculous. Use common sense man.
Do you draw better with slip on hands (gloves). Something that needs a delicate, and accurate feel (like pool) would require something a little more permanent and sensitive to give more feedback and control of the tool in use.
belmicah said:
Screws hold things quite well. A screw often holds a pool cue shaft to a pool cue butt, there is little discussion about how easily they fall apart. A screw holds a carbide insert on an indexable cutting tool where there can be a lot more force and vibration than a simple cue tip, and wow can they do precision work with them. They don't fall off that easily if properly installed.
Regarding the shape, I would presume that any tip can be shaped to ones preference independant of how it is attached.
belmicah said:
I will never refrain from asking for scientific evidence. You may be an engineer who goes with the popular cultural ideas, but not me. I'm one of those "show me some proof" kinda guys, not one who takes a "trust me" answer well ... that is ridiculous to me.
belmicah said:
See above, threaded fasteners can hold things on quite well ... you'll be happy they do as you drive your car. Regarding 'feedback and control', I would have to see the testing to believe there is a significant difference between the two fastening methods, other variables being equal.
Dave
Perhaps it would be better to say that If a high end screw on tip was manufactured to the tolerance specs of high end pool cues, and was possibly designed a little better (more thought on playability and less thought on profit) then screw on and glue on tips may play equally well?
-Justin (despotic931)
-Justin (despotic931)
Handsumm
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The screw on tips are better than the slip on, but a screw on tips will loosen with every single impact, inevitably becoming loose enough to cause a hit to be inadvertently erroneus.DaveK said:
Slip on tips are much wider than the original diameter of the shaft, and are basically what I was talkin about in the first place.
I too am a "show me the evidence" type, and by all means find evidence to the contrary in what I have said. I did not intend for you to just "trust me" on the fact that glue on tips are better, but I was just asking you to apply logic to come to a reasonable conclusion that a non-permanent attachment would PROBABLY not be the best solution regarding a tool that performs better when acting as a whole unit.
Who knows, maybe we'll all be using screw on tips soon. You can be the godfather of the new screw on tip revolution!
What a bunch of degenerates we all are. Hooray for us!
What if you took a screw on tip....peeled off the crappy tip that is on the black base and then installed a good tip on the black base? After doing that except for the crappy ferule and cue that would be behind it the thing might hit ok