Do you see anything wrong with giving credit to great players before they leave us?

didn't have a clue!

thommy said:
Smokey,
I wasn't in any way denigrating the side track. I really enjoy Jams posts, I mean, who knows more about a shooter than the one snuggling with him?:thumbup:

I just want to hear as much as we can about the folks who lived it, while they can still tell it FIRST HAND!

As much as I hate to admit it, those days, (the 70s and 80s?, 30s and 40s?)
ain't coming back anytime soon, and I wasn't in on the action. This is my way to live it vicariously:D

Damn, I wish I could go back and ask Doc about it, but I was just a dumbass teenage kid and didn't know better, now I do, maybe?
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I was around Greenway in it's heyday. Bumped into Keith there, remember Buddy Hall standing around talking, no doubt saw many another pool name mentioned here. Didn't have a clue then and didn't pay them much mind. Greenway wasn't where I played real pool and most of the time I was there it was with a group of young people or a girl. Pool players didn't have names for me then anyway and most if I remember anything at all it is a first name or a nickname.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I was around Greenway in it's heyday. Bumped into Keith there, remember Buddy Hall standing around talking, no doubt saw many another pool name mentioned here. Didn't have a clue then and didn't pay them much mind. Greenway wasn't where I played real pool and most of the time I was there it was with a group of young people or a girl. Pool players didn't have names for me then anyway and most if I remember anything at all it is a first name or a nickname.

Hu
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Yeah, I know, I've posted about a buddy and I shooting 9 ball with Harry Platis, and then watching the local Seattle shooters battling it out with various stake horses and not having a clue.

Suddenly I'm 64 and history is of a greater import. . .Howinell did that happen?:grin:
 
smokey said:
i was thinking the same thing - but also i think the other posts were/are reasonable too. of course Locks idea was a Great Thought for all of us to think about; and also i think Jam/others have added a lot of thought too

i think for a lot of us, Jay H's thread was/is a fantastic one, here: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=272594
Jay's thread was titled: "Names from the past"

i thought Jay's thread should be another Main Category option for us. i guess many of you are like me and enjoy to read about the Legends of the Past, but as Lock implied [i feel he did anyway] that we would also really like to enjoy to read and comment on the current Legends [of the future]. i have no clue what many of you think so please comment - it's just my 2 cents and we could just call it, The Greats

and lastly to Jam: if i could ask a genie for one pool wish, i would wish to play Keith a game of 14.1 to 1,000 with a spot of 950. i couldn't imagine having more fun

all the best,
smokey
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Hey Smokey,
It is people like yourself that I enjoy posting a thread for. Always thinking and speaking positive about a person who thinks and writes his heart out to make the forum a great place to be for everyone, young, old, ladies, men, players, guess, bystanders, non pool players, and everyone else.
If I can't say anything good about a person I won't say anything. Period. I love AZB and everyone on it from the top to the bottom. I try to write clean and easy to understand threads. And keep them pool related. I thank you for your good comments. Best wishes to you and your family.
Many Regards,
Lock N load.
 
thommy said:
Smokey,
I wasn't in any way denigrating the side track. I really enjoy Jams posts, I mean, who knows more about a shooter than the one snuggling with him?:thumbup:

I just want to hear as much as we can about the folks who lived it, while they can still tell it FIRST HAND!

As much as I hate to admit it, those days, (the 70s and 80s?, 30s and 40s?)
ain't coming back anytime soon, and I wasn't in on the action. This is my way to live it vicariously:D

Damn, I wish I could go back and ask Doc about it, but I was just a dumbass teenage kid and didn't know better, now I do, maybe?
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Thank you Thommy.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I read Charles' comments as a reality-based opinion of the likelihood of long term success and security if playing pool for a living is your choice.

As for dancing monkeys-few of us are not.

Most here have attempted to play to the best of our ability-gambled a bit, or too much. Most of us enjoy the lure of the pool word with it's faults, dishonesty, excitement, drama, scoundrels and heroes. Most of us have done the math-and recognized the probability of becoming rich and famous playing pool. Not so much.

So, we dance to another tune for our supper, and the opportunity to support ourselves, our families....and pool..we become- 'I remember when...." story tellers...or sweat a local match.. or participate as dead money fodder in tournaments that someone else will win..because although it is a poorly paid career choice, generally, ..we do love the game and try to support the game and players by contributing via entry fees, TAR PPV's, 'chip-ins' to various free streamers....blah, blah, blah.

IMHO, Charles is frustrated that pool players can't make a living at what they love to do. He is also frustrated that the reality is that it is pointless to repeatedly point out that, despite not getting paid, being without leverage to change things, nothing can or will change. If it were a hit TV show, with huge advertising dollars in the mix-the entertainers could make demands for a better split/guarantee, etc-but its not-it's pool. An activity with a niche audience-that has some undeserved, but persistent obstacles to acceptance by polite society that has the disposeable dicretionary enertainment bucks to spend where they choose. They usually don't choose pool.

JAM has a perspective of the game, industry and premier players that few of us have. I respect her fervent opinions, although by lacking her experiences, I don't always understand or agree with them all.

We're all in the pool family. Bickering within the family is not unheard of.
 
3RAILKICK said:
I read Charles' comments as a reality-based opinion of the likelihood of long term success and security if playing pool for a living is your choice.

As for dancing monkeys-few of us are not.

Most here have attempted to play to the best of our ability-gambled a bit, or too much. Most of us enjoy the lure of the pool word with it's faults, dishonesty, excitement, drama, scoundrels and heroes. Most of us have done the math-and recognized the probability of becoming rich and famous playing pool. Not so much.

So, we dance to another tune for our supper, and the opportunity to support ourselves, our families....and pool..we become- 'I remember when...." story tellers...or sweat a local match.. or participate as dead money fodder in tournaments that someone else will win..because although it is a poorly paid career choice, generally, ..we do love the game and try to support the game and players by contributing via entry fees, TAR PPV's, 'chip-ins' to various free streamers....blah, blah, blah.

IMHO, Charles is frustrated that pool players can't make a living at what they love to do. He is also frustrated that the reality is that it is pointless to repeatedly point out that, despite not getting paid, being without leverage to change things, nothing can or will change. If it were a hit TV show, with huge advertising dollars in the mix-the entertainers could make demands for a better split/guarantee, etc-but its not-it's pool. An activity with a niche audience-that has some undeserved, but persistent obstacles to acceptance by polite society that has the disposeable dicretionary enertainment bucks to spend where they choose. They usually don't choose pool.

JAM has a perspective of the game, industry and premier players that few of us have. I respect her fervent opinions, although by lacking her experiences, I don't always understand or agree with them all.

We're all in the pool family. Bickering within the family is not unheard of.
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With logic like that sir, I'm sure ya got a couple more rails available as
needed:thumbup:


Well said sir.
 
3RAILKICK said:
I read Charles' comments as a reality-based opinion of the likelihood of long term success and security if playing pool for a living is your choice.

As for dancing monkeys-few of us are not.

Most here have attempted to play to the best of our ability-gambled a bit, or too much. Most of us enjoy the lure of the pool word with it's faults, dishonesty, excitement, drama, scoundrels and heroes. Most of us have done the math-and recognized the probability of becoming rich and famous playing pool. Not so much.

So, we dance to another tune for our supper, and the opportunity to support ourselves, our families....and pool..we become- 'I remember when...." story tellers...or sweat a local match.. or participate as dead money fodder in tournaments that someone else will win..because although it is a poorly paid career choice, generally, ..we do love the game and try to support the game and players by contributing via entry fees, TAR PPV's, 'chip-ins' to various free streamers....blah, blah, blah.

IMHO, Charles is frustrated that pool players can't make a living at what they love to do. He is also frustrated that the reality is that it is pointless to repeatedly point out that, despite not getting paid, being without leverage to change things, nothing can or will change. If it were a hit TV show, with huge advertising dollars in the mix-the entertainers could make demands for a better split/guarantee, etc-but its not-it's pool. An activity with a niche audience-that has some undeserved, but persistent obstacles to acceptance by polite society that has the disposeable dicretionary enertainment bucks to spend where they choose. They usually don't choose pool.

JAM has a perspective of the game, industry and premier players that few of us have. I respect her fervent opinions, although by lacking her experiences, I don't always understand or agree with them all.

We're all in the pool family. Bickering within the family is not unheard of.
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I am at a lost for words.
Many Regards,
Lock n load.
 
hey Lock...

Lock N Load said:
Hey Smokey,
It is people like yourself that I enjoy posting a thread for. Always thinking and speaking positive about a person who thinks and writes his heart out to make the forum a great place to be for everyone, young, old, ladies, men, players, guess, bystanders, non pool players, and everyone else.
If I can't say anything good about a person I won't say anything. Period. I love AZB and everyone on it from the top to the bottom. I try to write clean and easy to understand threads. And keep them pool related. I thank you for your good comments. Best wishes to you and your family.
Many Regards,
Lock N load.
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sri, but we differ some and you're the better for sure

i get out of line now and again. ask the older members and they can tell you some of my horror stories and if any doubt, ask Mr. Wilson

you on the other hand always have a Great Attitude. that is a blessing - so thank you Sir - thanks for your posting, your thoughts and your kind heart...

i admire you for who you are and what you say

all the best,
smokey
 
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smokey said:
sri, but we differ some and you're the better for sure

i get out of line now and again. ask the older members and they can tell you some of my horror stories and if any doubt, ask Mr. Wilson

you on the other hand always have a Great Attitude. that is a blessing - so thank you Sir - thanks for your posting, your thoughts and your kind heart...

i admire you for who you are and what you say

all the best,
smokey
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Smokey, all I can say is thank you. Some people on have a problem with a person thanking someone.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Good thread.

What ould be a good way to recognize great pool players before they are gone?

One of my first posts on AZB was about an older player who plays in the PNW and still plays super strong.I wanted to know if others had heard of him and had any stories.Also I thought it was amazing that he could hit the ball as well as he did at his age since I hadn't seen that before.Of course some people responded that I was knocking him or costing him $$.That player is still doing fine but we have lost many older players in the last few years around here and there are some others who are ill and may not be around long.

-Jer
 
smoooothstroke said:
Good thread.

What ould be a good way to recognize great pool players before they are gone?

One of my first posts on AZB was about an older player who plays in the PNW and still plays super strong.I wanted to know if others had heard of him and had any stories.Also I thought it was amazing that he could hit the ball as well as he did at his age since I hadn't seen that before.Of course some people responded that I was knocking him or costing him $$.That player is still doing fine but we have lost many older players in the last few years around here and there are some others who are ill and may not be around long.

-Jer
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I thank you for your good post in this thread. Some people just don't seem to care about older players anymore. After they die then everything breaks loose.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
smoooothstroke said:
Good thread.

What ould be a good way to recognize great pool players before they are gone?

One of my first posts on AZB was about an older player who plays in the PNW and still plays super strong.I wanted to know if others had heard of him and had any stories.Also I thought it was amazing that he could hit the ball as well as he did at his age since I hadn't seen that before.Of course some people responded that I was knocking him or costing him $$.That player is still doing fine but we have lost many older players in the last few years around here and there are some others who are ill and may not be around long.

-Jer
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Where is over the bridge? Thanks.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
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