Do you think RICH cues are nice playing cues, and are they worth much money?

I recently seen a RICH cue (at a local pawn shop), that looks a lot like the one in Post #55 of this thread (but without the Ostrich Skin wrap, with a regular linen wrap on it, that looked to have probably been the original wrap), http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=165157&page=4.

The price on the cue was $200, and it came with 1 shaft (that looked a lot like the shaft in Post #55 too).

Just curious if that is a fair price for a cue similar to the one in Post #55?

Do many players use RICH cues these days, or are they maybe collectors items?

Do you think they are decent playing cues?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.

I just thought the cue looked really interesting, but maybe the price on it was a little too high? I do not know how much these cues are worth.

Thanks.
 
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Used to visit Abe Rich at Star cues in Miami in early 1990's His cues played OK, he was sort of known in Fl. for his sneaky pete's Eccentric older guy by then, was sort of losing his marbles, he really could not fulfill any custom order cues any longer, wrote down my specs, but repeated calls turned out that he was just going thru cue making motions at that point- kind of sad to see this old school cuemaker fade away like that. I think that any decent shape Rich cue today from either of the Rich cue making family members is a sort of billiard treasure of days gone by and should play half way decent - not a Bushka though.
 
price is right and decent players
mine from the late 1980's still straight
 
price is right and decent players
mine from the late 1980's still straight

Thanks. Can you maybe compare the hit to any other cues out there? Or, does it have its own unique type of hit (referring to the RICH cue that you have)? Thanks.
 
How do you know it's a Rich? If it's a logo, it's probably not what you think it is.

On a different note, I'd play off the wall before I'd support the overwhelming majority of pawn shops.
 
$200 is a little high for this cue that you pictured. Also, who knows how it has been treated? It may be ready to fall apart.

I have a pre-logo Meucci that you can buy for a fair price if you want a known quality player. Real ebony points, real veneers, real linen wrap.
 
Only worth it if you want one. If you do not get it you are not missing anything.
 
I recently seen a RICH cue (at a local pawn shop), that looks a lot like the one in Post #55 of this thread (but without the Ostrich Skin wrap, with a regular linen wrap on it, that looked to have probably been the original wrap), http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=165157&page=4.

The price on the cue was $200, and it came with 1 shaft (that looked a lot like the shaft in Post #55 too).

Just curious if that is a fair price for a cue similar to the one in Post #55?

Do many players use RICH cues these days, or are they maybe collectors items?

Do you think they are decent playing cues?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.

I just thought the cue looked really interesting, but maybe the price on it was a little too high? I do not know how much these cues are worth.

Thanks.
The link you provided discusses Star Cues by Abe Rich from Miami, not RICH cues by Saul Rich in the Bowery.

Before anyone can answer, you better be sure which one you're really talking about.

Personally, for $200 from Abe Rich, and a legit Titlist conversion (Abe didn't make points), I'd consider buying it.


Freddie
 
Yes

I agree with Cornerman if it's really one of his tilist conversions it's worth it especially if your going to play with it.

Plus pawn shop probably take good bite less, just depends on how long it's been sitting their.
 
The link you provided discusses Star Cues by Abe Rich from Miami, not RICH cues by Saul Rich in the Bowery.

Before anyone can answer, you better be sure which one you're really talking about.

Personally, for $200 from Abe Rich, and a legit Titlist conversion (Abe didn't make points), I'd consider buying it.


Freddie

That's an import blank, not a Titlist
 
That's an import blank, not a Titlist



Yep kind of like the one Abe Rich cue I have that is an import blank. The glue lines are terrible on mine. But it is dead straight and shoots terrific, turned into my every day player. This cue just has a great balance and feel when hitting the cue ball. I have several other of Abe's cues that hit alright but nothing special. The balance seems good on them but the feel isn't there. Part of it is the tips on them. Now to answer the question on if it is worth $200....if it shoots like mine yes.....if.
 
Many cues identified as Abe cues are not.

But if you find an Abe cue with veneered points for $200, buy it. They are rare. He did not make the splice.

If you find an Abe Titlist conversion buy it. They are even more rare.

The last time I saw an Abe Titlist I believe it sold for around $500, including shipping.

I have no idea what you found in the Pawn shop. B so I am not saying to buy it.

How do they play? Generally well enough. A bit inconsustent, so don't bother asking what brand they play like.

I have several Abe cures.

Buy one if you want one. I wouldn't be looking for one for a player though.
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$200 is a little high for this cue that you pictured. Also, who knows how it has been treated? It may be ready to fall apart.

I have a pre-logo Meucci that you can buy for a fair price if you want a known quality player. Real ebony points, real veneers, real linen wrap.

If you sell that Meucci to him I will throw myself in traffic.

Then crawl naked through broken glass to get it back....

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Question for Justin

Hey Justin. You seem to have "hands on" a great many cues and it begs a question in my mind. Is there any cue that you really liked that you regret flipping .. or one you did keep maybe? Just wondering what you yourself like in a cue, and what brand and specs you consider the best for yourself and your style of shooting.
 
How do you know it's a Rich? If it's a logo, it's probably not what you think it is.

On a different note, I'd play off the wall before I'd support the overwhelming majority of pawn shops.

It says RICH (in capital letters) at the bottom of the butt (near the rubber bumper), and the shaft has that very unique looking long pilot in the shaft. I just thought it was really cool looking, with the points and veneers. It looked very interesting (I thought). Looked very old (maybe from the 70's?).
 
The link you provided discusses Star Cues by Abe Rich from Miami, not RICH cues by Saul Rich in the Bowery.

Before anyone can answer, you better be sure which one you're really talking about.

Personally, for $200 from Abe Rich, and a legit Titlist conversion (Abe didn't make points), I'd consider buying it.


Freddie

Yeah, I do not know anything about this stuff (the history of Star cues or RICH cues, I thought they were from the same cue maker). I just thought it looked similar to that cue in post #55 of that thread, and it had that long wooden pilot (wood over metal pilot) in the shaft (that looked very similar too). "RICH" was inlaid in the butt below the wrap. I wish I would have taken a picture. The pawn shop is located in downtown Winston Salem, and I am in Greensboro. I might go check it out again, if it is still there.
 
Many cues identified as Abe cues are not.

But if you find an Abe cue with veneered points for $200, buy it. They are rare. He did not make the splice.

If you find an Abe Titlist conversion buy it. They are even more rare.

The last time I saw an Abe Titlist I believe it sold for around $500, including shipping.

I have no idea what you found in the Pawn shop. B so I am not saying to buy it.

How do they play? Generally well enough. A bit inconsustent, so don't bother asking what brand they play like.

I have several Abe cures.

Buy one if you want one. I wouldn't be looking for one for a player though.
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Thanks for the info. I was just curious. I have no idea if it is a titlelist what. Can't remember if it had 3 points, or 4. Kind of reminded me of one of those old 3 point veneered Viking cues (from the 70's?). I forgot to count the points though. I should have taken a picture of the cue.
 
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