Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%
  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%
  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%
  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%

  • Total voters
    286
It's pretty good though. Especially for some shots requiring extra accuracy. I can use CTE to get the line and then use Shane's shaft method to sort of double verify and stay zeroed in. Not that I need it but it works so why not.

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Shane's is not a system it's a method it's akin to having to adjust sights or scopes on a gun ,,I know someone who's used that method for 50 yrs or better



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Does CTE still work if the cue ball is a different size? I play league on baby tables. Cue balls size varies from bar to bar. One bar has the largest cue ball I have ever seen. Hate that thing.

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Shane's is not a system it's a method it's akin to having to adjust sights or scopes on a gun ,,I know someone who's used that method for 50 yrs or better
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SHANE calls it a SYSTEM. He doesn't care what you think nor do other players who use aiming systems.

I guess what Darren uses isn't an aiming system either, correct?

Just as I predicted, all of the naysaying aiming system trolls are piping in with their absurd garbage about pro players and top instructors not knowing what they're talking about or actually using. Only the hack playing TROLLS know for certain.
 
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Now we're back on track with the nonsense.

Please, I'd love to see the actual evidence for not only cte being what it is claimed to be, but for these "many more" that have been successful.

Aren't you a pro by now?

Edit: this is precisely why this junk was discarded to the aiming forum

Could be a pro. How ever i'm not interested in being one. I have a wife, kids, and run a successful business. I do love playing pool though.
How about you? You feel shots so well. which pro player are you?
 
Shane's method isn't objective, any more than yours or mine is. He uses objective references to assist his aiming, that's all.

You don't understand the word.

pj <- what else is new?
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P.S. No, I don't want to bet $100,000.

So if you describe a system that uses objective references how is that system not objective by description. Not talking about actually shooting the ball, just the description of the system.
 
Does CTE still work if the cue ball is a different size? I play league on baby tables. Cue balls size varies from bar to bar. One bar has the largest cue ball I have ever seen. Hate that thing.

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I've never had a problem with different sized balls but i also don't play much without a measles cue ball. Stan would be the best to ask.
 
Just like the movies aiming systems have fans and critics. Most of the people, I'd guess the vast majority, who are CTE students love the method and give it good reviews.

A few are critical and nitpicky just like it happens with any movie. Even Oscar winning movies have critics.

John.

Your manner of speaking could give the impression that most of the people are using, studying, & love (an emotional felling) CTE & give out good reviews.

That is, unless one reads carefullly.

Then one realizes that you were only speaking of the rather small amount of people, relatively speaking, that actual do use CTE.

Best Wishes.
 
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John,

Shaft portions are not objective. There is no way to look at 3/4 or 2/3 of the shaft with accuracy. What shaft size? 12,75? 12,5? 12,00? It is b...shit. And it is impossible to do that at any cb-ob distance.

You got there before I could.

John says much that is incorrect &/or misleading & could certainly be considered as propaganda given his passion for wanting to spread CTE or just mistakes given his haste in doing so.

Best 2 Ya.
 
SHANE calls it a SYSTEM. He doesn't care what you think nor do other players who use aiming systems.

I guess what Darren uses isn't an aiming system either, correct?

Just as I predicted, all of the naysaying aiming system trolls are piping in with their absurd garbage about pro players and top instructors not knowing what they're talking about or actually using. Only the hack playing TROLLS know for certain.

Says King hack Troll , he can call it blue if he wants but by definition it's a method not a system ,, I don't know how Darren aims ,,

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Does CTE still work if the cue ball is a different size? I play league on baby tables. Cue balls size varies from bar to bar. One bar has the largest cue ball I have ever seen. Hate that thing.

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That is what we use to call 'The Mudd Ball'. It was very very prevalent at one time back in I believe the mid to late 80s.

I actually went out & purchased one to use at home because playing with that was an entirely different game. you more or less had to use completely different patterns to not overload your stroke & risk mis-stroking.
 
John.

Your manner of speaking could give the impression that most of the people are using, studying, & love (an emotional felling) CTE & give out good reviews.

That is, unless one reads carefullly.

Then one realizes that you were only speaking of the rather small amount of people, relatively speaking, that actual do use CTE.

Best Wishes.

Well, since you don't have the numbers and neither do I then neither of us has any hard numbers of users. BUT I am positive that I have met many more people than you who are happy aiming system users and many of them use CTE.

That's pretty much because I travel around the world in my job as a cue case maker and get the opportunity to talk aiming with a lot of my customers. As well people come up to me at shows to talk about aiming.

Although the poll here doesn't mean much it is cool to see that almost 40% of the respondents say they use aiming systems at least some of the time. I am pretty confident that if we polled the hundreds of people who bought Stan's dvds that the vast majority of them are satisfied customers who successfully use CTE to some degree.

Another stat that I find cool is that the majority of top instructors in the United States teach CTE or something similar to their students. That these top instructors, the nation's best, endorse and teach a variety of aiming systems is a pretty good argument for anyone who is curious about adding precision and accuracy into their aiming.
 
Says King hack Troll , he can call it blue if he wants but by definition it's a method not a system ,, I don't know how Darren aims ,,

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King Hack Troll would by you and a few others on here...you know, the "usual" suspects some of which who have doing it for almost 2 decades.

Do you even know the definition of a system? I didn't think so. Here it is:

Definition of SYSTEM:
a set of principles or procedures according to which something is done; an organized scheme or method.

AN ORGANIZED METHOD IS A SYSTEM!! A SYSTEM IS ALSO AN ORGANIZED METHOD!

You don't know how Darren aims? LOL! You don't know jack squat about any kind of aiming to begin with. The youtube video link was provided above explained by Ekkes how Darren aims. It's called the SEE-SYSTEM developed by Darren and Ekkes, used by both of them, and taught to students all over the world in person or by DVD.

You know nothing about it? Tough luck. Be happy and stay where you are.
 
Does CTE still work if the cue ball is a different size? I play league on baby tables. Cue balls size varies from bar to bar. One bar has the largest cue ball I have ever seen. Hate that thing.

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Possibly within a few mm but when I tried it with snooker and pool balls it doesn't work very well.

I am fairly sure that on a bar table with the old oversized ball it would work fairly well but I can't be 100% sure as I haven't tried it.

Wherever possible try to take your own cue ball and get everyone to agree to use it in league.
 
You got there before I could.

John says much that is incorrect &/or misleading & could certainly be considered as propaganda given his passion for wanting to spread CTE or just mistakes given his haste in doing so.

Best 2 Ya.

You're both wrong. Any item can be used as an objective reference for the purpose of measurement or alignment.

If a person knows their shaft well enough they can use it to align to the shot and be very consistent once they figure out the parameters.

I find it funny that some people have this aversion to using more concrete methods of aiming. As if somehow this takes the romance of the game and makes it clinical and surgical. Slice the ball into portions, dissect that balll, etc...... maybe it's just me but it seems like some folks in this thread prefer to just guess when they aim and they are mad if other people don't want to be guessing all the time.
 
Could be a pro. How ever i'm not interested in being one. I have a wife, kids, and run a successful business. I do love playing pool though.
How about you? You feel shots so well. which pro player are you?

I've done a lot more improving than any of the cte people in this thread in the 10 years since i started and i don't even have a system that connects to the geometry of the table to make all shots center pocket, plus im only a barbox league player. Of course you could be a pro, this is the internet after all.

Oh, i almost forgot.. i did ask Darren, in person, how he aims. Keep up the losing battle.

Still, you offered to show the evidence that it works. Go ahead and point it out, without just somebody saying it's what they think is happening. Still waiting.
 
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