Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%
  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%
  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%
  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%

  • Total voters
    286
And this statement from you is particularly silly considering how often you have said video proves nothing.
Again, videos can't prove the things you think they can - but that doesn't mean they can't prove some things. This is yet another example of you not understanding which is which.

This video only proves that the setup was not a half ball shot to the corner, and that Stan made it anyway - that's all the video by itself can prove (except maybe that Stan's stroke wasn't straight, which I don't care about). The video by itself doesn't prove how Stan made that shot - that just follows from what Stan said he thought he was doing (making a half ball shot), contrasted with the clear video evidence that he was doing something else (making a non-half ball shot).

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Neither do the other two. They do, however, know how to sell their merchandise to unsuspecting players like Cookie Monster.
And, after all, isn't that what it's all about? :smile:

You are so funny Tramp boy. But i must say you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
The method of correcting the aim is in the system. You either recheck you visuals or you choose a different key.

Once you have it you have it forever. No devices needed, no guessing required.

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Sounds great...how is it working out for you?
 
I think we should start a bet where we guess how many replies this thread will have when it dies. If you bet you can't reply anymore, the one that is closest wins the pot.


You ever take a crap and while you're wiping, the toilet paper rips and you get crap all over your hand?
I hate when that happens.

You need double-ply TP man.
 
Sounds great...how is it working out for you?
As for me, it is working out very very well.
All my life (and that's a long time too) I've had a beautiful smooth stroke, good stance, good follow through, and no problems with "dogging it" in the clutch. Yet, I consistently missed balls that should've gone down. My percentage of kills was wayyy low.
Even the greats Wimpy Lassiter, Danny Jones, and Joe Cosgrove could not figure it out.
And then about a year or so ago...I stumbled into this Stan Shuffet CTE method of finding and getting dead on that shot line. Now, I'm playing pretty good.
Someone said "Pool is an outcome based game...the ball either goes in the hole or it doesn't". Who cares WHY or HOW.....as long as there is a tool available that will allow the consistency to jump up in a relatively short period of study (which is at about the 5th grade level)....I'm all in for that deal.
If you hate it, think it is insane, think people who use it and get results are liars, cheats, snake oil salesmen, dumbasses, chumps, fools, whatever........why don't you just FORGET ABOUT IT AND LEAVE IT ALONE? Nobody is forcing you to fool around with it. If you bought the DVD's and it didn't work for you, just send the damn things back and stop the whining and moaning.
Contrary to what you may think, you're not any 'crusaders for justice' on a mission to expose those who would ruin a pool shooter's life. You're just pool shooters like everyone else and nothing else.
By the way, I never met Stan Shuffett or the John Barton fellow, but if they ever have one of those pure shot making contests with Shuffett against whoever steps up....I am in for about $500 on the CTE side of the action. (and that's a lot of money for an old retired, worn out, broke ass bum, like me). Sounds like fun.
But I'll gamble on it. Deal the cards....:wink:
Flash
 
I think we should start a bet where we guess how many replies this thread will have when it dies. If you bet you can't reply anymore, the one that is closest wins the pot.




You need double-ply TP man.

Why do you care? I mean obviously you have been around the forum long enough to know that "aiming" is a hot topic. So you make a "poll" about it and then complain when people discuss the various methods????

Let it go on for 100,000 posts why does it matter? There is actually some very good information being presented in between the knocker posts. If you're TRULY a student of the game with a goal of being pro speed in five years you would be studying this information very closely. But you seem to be immaturely missing the expensive truffles while complaining about the amount of trees in the forest.
 
Why do you care? I mean obviously you have been around the forum long enough to know that "aiming" is a hot topic. So you make a "poll" about it and then complain when people discuss the various methods????

Let it go on for 100,000 posts why does it matter? There is actually some very good information being presented in between the knocker posts. If you're TRULY a student of the game with a goal of being pro speed in five years you would be studying this information very closely. But you seem to be immaturely missing the expensive truffles while complaining about the amount of trees in the forest.

I really don't care and I'm not complaining.

I read them for a while, then I started to find most of them uninteresting. When I made this thread, I didn't know aiming systems were so controversial. I already made my mind about this matter, mostly after reading a good bunch of replies here. The debate itself doesn't interest me.

Quick to jump to conclusions are you?
 
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I really don't care and I'm not complaining.
I read them for a while, then I started to find most of them uninteresting. When I made this thread, I didn't know aiming systems were so controversial. I already made my mind about this matter, mostly after reading a good bunch of replies here. The debate itself doesn't interest me.
Quick to jump to conclusions are you?
I like your sig line. :wink:
 
If you hate it, think it is insane, think people who use it and get results are liars, cheats, snake oil salesmen, dumbasses, chumps, fools, whatever........why don't you just FORGET ABOUT IT AND LEAVE IT ALONE? Nobody is forcing you to fool around with it. If you bought the DVD's and it didn't work for you, just send the damn things back and stop the whining and moaning.

If they don't like getting called on all of the wild claims they make, maybe they should stop making them. Nobody is forcing them to make things up. (Maybe I should've used bold, too?)

Big, fat LOL at the last part.. "if people don't like it, they should shut up and not say anything"
 
My bad habits were there long before learning any aiming system. You're very lucky that I was on tilt and not focused on my form. As I said though CTE aiming did help me make a lot of shots that kept me in the game despite my worst form coming out.

So its exactly the opposite, CTE aiming helps a player whose form is crippled make more shots and tougher shots more often.



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Five months to get ready for the match, the day of the match arrives, and you go on tilt, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
I like your sig line. :wink:

I'll take that as you thinking of it as ironic?

In other words, you are saying that I can't have made my mind about aiming systems? That's special.

If I conclude that I don't want to eat carrots, are you gonna argue with me that I'm wrong and that I'm ignorant?
 
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It's incomprehensible to you because you make no real effort to comprehend it.

Stan made a mistake in ball placement to incorrectly label the shot ad a half ball hit when it was not one. So for the non CTE half ball aim the shot had to be thrown in to go.

But on all the Cte shots the stroke was straight and the ball went in. So actually the premise is fully validated.

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Oh God, not: "you didn't reeeallly try" again.

I'll clue you in, here's what's really going on: CTE mis-aligns you.

So what happens is that as you're pulling the trigger your brain is screaming "NO WAY, JOSE!!!" and you end up shooting with a big ol' swarp as your brain tries to make a mid-stroke correction and save your body (and bankroll) from a suicide mission.

You're welcome.

Lou Figueroa
reeeally tried
 
I'll take that as you thinking of it as ironic?
In other words, you are saying that I can't have made my mind about aiming systems? That's special.
If I conclude that I don't like carrots, are you gonna argue with me that I'm wrong and that I'm ignorant?
I'm not going to argue with you about anything, young man.
I just said (and not any of that "in other words" stuff, either) that I like your sig line.
It says more than you may think. :)
 
As for me, it is working out very very well.
All my life (and that's a long time too) I've had a beautiful smooth stroke, good stance, good follow through, and no problems with "dogging it" in the clutch. Yet, I consistently missed balls that should've gone down. My percentage of kills was wayyy low.
Even the greats Wimpy Lassiter, Danny Jones, and Joe Cosgrove could not figure it out.
And then about a year or so ago...I stumbled into this Stan Shuffet CTE method of finding and getting dead on that shot line. Now, I'm playing pretty good.
Someone said "Pool is an outcome based game...the ball either goes in the hole or it doesn't". Who cares WHY or HOW.....as long as there is a tool available that will allow the consistency to jump up in a relatively short period of study (which is at about the 5th grade level)....I'm all in for that deal.
If you hate it, think it is insane, think people who use it and get results are liars, cheats, snake oil salesmen, dumbasses, chumps, fools, whatever........why don't you just FORGET ABOUT IT AND LEAVE IT ALONE? Nobody is forcing you to fool around with it. If you bought the DVD's and it didn't work for you, just send the damn things back and stop the whining and moaning.
Contrary to what you may think, you're not any 'crusaders for justice' on a mission to expose those who would ruin a pool shooter's life. You're just pool shooters like everyone else and nothing else.
By the way, I never met Stan Shuffett or the John Barton fellow, but if they ever have one of those pure shot making contests with Shuffett against whoever steps up....I am in for about $500 on the CTE side of the action. (and that's a lot of money for an old retired, worn out, broke ass bum, like me). Sounds like fun.
But I'll gamble on it. Deal the cards....:wink:
Flash

Good story & I'm very Glad for you & that all would make perfect sense from your point of view.

But there are those like TonyTheTiger & others (some have PMd me) that it did not work for them. Tony spent more than a year trying to get it to work to a satisfactorily level. I don't think Stan offers a money back guarantee, but I could be wrong about that. If he does, & it's in writing with the purchase than that would get me to be less concerned. I had not really thought of that before. I guess because I've never seen that mentioned.

Dan gave it a brief try & found it lacking & may be coming back for a 2nd. try but he can't seem to get his questions answered to any satisfactorily manner.

If it could be agreed upon as to it's core nature & that would explain why it did not work for the likes of Tony, etc, then perhaps it would allow those to approach it from a different perspective & maybe actually reap some real benefit from it as you certainly seem to have gotten.

But as long as there is an 'air' about it that some if not many see as not factual, there will always be this disagreement & hence 'discussion' regarding it. How long has it gone on already? Two decades?

I'm relatively new & now Dan to some extent. If I pack up & shoot my laptop with a shotgun, there will be someone like Dan that comes along.

So... why not do away with all of the vitriol & trolling & take certain things seriously & try to do some intellectual critical thinking & then state the truth of matters.

To me that would certainly be the best thing for all of the innocent by standers.

I hope you can see & understand my points or at least take them as food for thought.

Best Wishes.
 
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