Another attack the messenger with nothing said regarding the 'message'.
On the contrary. The silent majority can see what's going on & make their own determinations.
Best Wishes.
Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?
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Another attack the messenger with nothing said regarding the 'message'.
On the contrary. The silent majority can see what's going on & make their own determinations.
Best Wishes.
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If i buy him a jb case, will they both go away?
If not, I'll still chip in for the ld shaft.
I will go away for an ld shaft and a JB case.
Just putting that out there.
Just putting that out there.
I've read or skimmed most of the posts in this thread, sincerely looking for knowledge. Koop's post caught me with my pants down. It seemed off topic but if you're objective you can see where the subject is relevant.
We all do. I have some comments and questions.
Your alignment may have been off,
but we know you were on the sh*tline and don't need video.
Could be your stroke, I recommend swipe not swoop and don't forget to clear your tip.
Did you take into account both balls and do a full tip pivot?
It only works on 2, not when 2 and 1 are going on.
Most go by feel but one system could be contact patch with overlap.
You can't see it but if you stroke straight you should be fine.
MahnaMahna will probably label this post crappy as well.
We all do. I have some comments and questions.
Your alignment may have been off,
but we know you were on the sh*tline and don't need video.
Could be your stroke, I recommend swipe not swoop and don't forget to clear your tip.
Did you take into account both balls and do a full tip pivot?
It only works on 2, not when 2 and 1 are going on.
Most go by feel but one system could be contact patch with overlap.
You can't see it but if you stroke straight you should be fine.
MahnaMahna will probably label this post crappy as well.
I am always accurate in my statements describing my experience with aiming systems.
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I think John is going to send me a DVD. That is, if Stan will let him. 
I promise to give it my full attention and to spend enough table time to make an intelligent conclusion based on following the DVD. Frankly, I don't think this is necessary in order for someone to have an intelligent point of view based on deductive reasoning, but I'm not here to argue that point. If Stan says you can't learn this unless you are at the table doing it, then I'll give it an honest try.
I will video tape any interesting findings if I make any. Oh, I'll do it in super slo mo so John can see if there is a wobble in my stroke.
I promise to give it my full attention and to spend enough table time to make an intelligent conclusion based on following the DVD. Frankly, I don't think this is necessary in order for someone to have an intelligent point of view based on deductive reasoning, but I'm not here to argue that point. If Stan says you can't learn this unless you are at the table doing it, then I'll give it an honest try.
I will video tape any interesting findings if I make any. Oh, I'll do it in super slo mo so John can see if there is a wobble in my stroke.
I think John is going to send me a DVD. That is, if Stan will let him.
I promise to give it my full attention and to spend enough table time to make an intelligent conclusion based on following the DVD. Frankly, I don't think this is necessary in order for someone to have an intelligent point of view based on deductive reasoning, but I'm not here to argue that point. If Stan says you can't learn this unless you are at the table doing it, then I'll give it an honest try.
I will video tape any interesting findings if I make any. Oh, I'll do it in super slo mo so John can see if there is a wobble in my stroke.
Dan,
Personally, I do not see what any video can do to decide the issue, but... if it can get you over your hurdle & stumbling blocks , then Good Luck with it.
Best Wishes.
I think John is going to send me a DVD. That is, if Stan will let him.
I promise to give it my full attention and to spend enough table time to make an intelligent conclusion based on following the DVD. Frankly, I don't think this is necessary in order for someone to have an intelligent point of view based on deductive reasoning, but I'm not here to argue that point. If Stan says you can't learn this unless you are at the table doing it, then I'll give it an honest try.
I will video tape any interesting findings if I make any. Oh, I'll do it in super slo mo so John can see if there is a wobble in my stroke.
Here are a few things I would like to know.
1) What dimension this aiming system comes from?
2) Why it only pockets balls on a 2x1 surface?
3) How the same visual and the same pivot... with tbe same cueball/objectball distance, can create two different angles?
If you can figure those out let us know.:wink:
Thanks.
I suppose you also want the location of the Holy Grail and King Arthur's sword while I am at it right?
I hope that JB does not send you a video. The results of any future investigating by you are quite predictable.
Stan Shuffett
The sub conscious can not tell the difference between what's real and what is not.
You tell the sub conscious it's the same visual for different cut angles enough times, it will believe it over time......even though in real life it's not real.
That's the only reason CTE works, the sub conscious was fooled into believing it does work as described.
Like in the perception thread.....it took the conscious brain to tell the difference between what is real and what is not.
You tell the sub conscious it's the same visual for different cut angles enough times, it will believe it over time......even though in real life it's not real.
That's the only reason CTE works, the sub conscious was fooled into believing it does work as described.
Like in the perception thread.....it took the conscious brain to tell the difference between what is real and what is not.
I hear what you're saying.
BUT... sometimes the subconscious knows more about what is real better than the conscious mind does at a given moment.
For CTE, they consciously think that there is no subjectivity in play while their subconscious knows that certain shots can not be made without it's subjective input, so it applies it.
Best Wishes.
But it works the first time and every time. That's one helluva trick, fooling the subconscious before you even do anything
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As proven by JB and all of the others that haven't improved or not much.
Why do you continue to make definitive statements about CTE , and here, even definitive statements about how CTE users minds work, when you have no idea what the steps to using CTE even are?
You are not some kind of authority on CTE. Just the opposite. You know next to nothing about it, and refuse to actually learn about it to where you can at least make some knowledgeable statements about it.
It has been proven that the subconscious does not change the shot line in CTE. Yet, here you are, once again, saying it does with nothing at all to back up your false claims. You make up and say anything that you think will denigrate CTE. At least take the time and effort to learn CTE, and then you can make some intelligent conversation about it. If you aren't even willing to learn about what you post so much about, all you are doing is trolling.
Neil - can you direct me to that proof? I'd be interested to see what you are referring to. Also, you had a good idea on reverse engineering the CTE process but I never responded to that post. I may or may not receive a DVD so I might just do what the DVD says instead, or will do both.
I musta missed that - can you link to the proof? If it's been proved "over and over again", any one of them will do.
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You knockers sure do know a lot about the subconscious. Pretty neat for a bunch of people who aren't neuroscientists, not psychiatrists, not psychologists, not behavioral scientists, or otherwise accredited in any field that I know of which would give you the background to make definitive statements about what the subconscious does during a pool shot.
I mean the brain is a mysterious thing and is more powerful than all the computers in the world in some aspects. We, as a species, know more about our own brain and how it operates than ever before but we still don't know everything.
One of the things that research has indicated is that deep dedicated practice forms neural connections though myelin which can be thought of as something like superfast fiber optic cable. This allows the synapses to fire quicker when the brain has to direct the body to perform a task. It's why we are clumsy at first with any new task and become increasingly proficient as we pour time and effort into practicing that task.
While the brain PROBABLY can make subconscious leaps on the fly to just the perfect solution for a problem it's not likely that it does this constantly. We have not evolved into the types of creatures who have a hyperawareness and sensory perception to be able to make those instant leaps. Instead we are far more analytical about the things we want to do making conscious choices most of the time such as reaching for water instead of coke. But we also make subconscious choices such as reaching for a coke instead of water. Our conscious mind knows coke is bad for us but the subconscious, driven by an addiction to sugar, chooses coke.
Which is to say that there is a LOT we don't know about the subconscious other than it is POSSIBLE to train yourself to overcome it with conscious deliberate choices and to form habits based on those choices which then become the default instead of the exception.
I see this same with CTE or any of the ball-to-ball objective methods. The more that one trains to use them the more that they become the default and the less chance there is of any subconscious meddling or correction that there is. It is folly in my opinion to say that when a shot is made by a person who used some objective method to aim which doesn't fit in the 2d geometric paradigm that the user MUST have subconsciously corrected to the right aiming line.
Just think about what that really means if true?
You take an average player and benchmark him noting the types of shots he misses frequently. Teach him CTE and track his progress and if his shotmaking goes up substantially with no correlating stroke training then if it is his subconscious doing the work AFTER using CTE to align himself consciously to the shot it means the greatest method to tap into the subconscious has been found. But then how do you account for misses? Did the subconscious guess wrong?
I don't think you can assign so much weight to the subconscious in this regard. And that's also my non-qualified opinion based on the reading I have done.
https://haloneuroblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/the-10000-hour-rule-revisited/
I mean the brain is a mysterious thing and is more powerful than all the computers in the world in some aspects. We, as a species, know more about our own brain and how it operates than ever before but we still don't know everything.
One of the things that research has indicated is that deep dedicated practice forms neural connections though myelin which can be thought of as something like superfast fiber optic cable. This allows the synapses to fire quicker when the brain has to direct the body to perform a task. It's why we are clumsy at first with any new task and become increasingly proficient as we pour time and effort into practicing that task.
While the brain PROBABLY can make subconscious leaps on the fly to just the perfect solution for a problem it's not likely that it does this constantly. We have not evolved into the types of creatures who have a hyperawareness and sensory perception to be able to make those instant leaps. Instead we are far more analytical about the things we want to do making conscious choices most of the time such as reaching for water instead of coke. But we also make subconscious choices such as reaching for a coke instead of water. Our conscious mind knows coke is bad for us but the subconscious, driven by an addiction to sugar, chooses coke.
Which is to say that there is a LOT we don't know about the subconscious other than it is POSSIBLE to train yourself to overcome it with conscious deliberate choices and to form habits based on those choices which then become the default instead of the exception.
I see this same with CTE or any of the ball-to-ball objective methods. The more that one trains to use them the more that they become the default and the less chance there is of any subconscious meddling or correction that there is. It is folly in my opinion to say that when a shot is made by a person who used some objective method to aim which doesn't fit in the 2d geometric paradigm that the user MUST have subconsciously corrected to the right aiming line.
Just think about what that really means if true?
You take an average player and benchmark him noting the types of shots he misses frequently. Teach him CTE and track his progress and if his shotmaking goes up substantially with no correlating stroke training then if it is his subconscious doing the work AFTER using CTE to align himself consciously to the shot it means the greatest method to tap into the subconscious has been found. But then how do you account for misses? Did the subconscious guess wrong?
I don't think you can assign so much weight to the subconscious in this regard. And that's also my non-qualified opinion based on the reading I have done.
https://haloneuroblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/the-10000-hour-rule-revisited/