Does a "compression fit" do anything?

Rodney said:
I’m just curious, why doesn’t feedback go through the joint screw?
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The joint screw is only inserted into a very small portion of the cue butt - feedback on a cue hit passes to your grip hand from the cue butt that you are holding.
 
Duane Remick said:
Tasc, Showman, Lambros , Searing, Olney, etc always strive to build nice, tight fitting cues-
Hoping for maximum results in the Playability aspects of their cues.
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If any of these people could explain how the tight fitting joints improve the 'playability' instead of just hoping it does, they might have me in their audience.

To be fair, I've never heard one of those cuemakers claim that tight joints make their cues play better, just the fanbois.
 
Cornerman said:
It does per shock wave and speed of sound.
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It’s been said that Cog’s with the G10 pin offer the greatest feedback. The idea is that with any steel in a joint the shock wave reverses when it reaches the joint. With a Cog that doesn’t happen because with the G10 pin the shock wave resonates from tip to grip. Opinions?
 
Hungarian said:
It’s been said that Cog’s with the G10 pin offer the greatest feedback. The idea is that with any steel in a joint the shock wave reverses when it reaches the joint. With a Cog that doesn’t happen because with the G10 pin the shock wave resonates from tip to grip. Opinions?
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A basic ultrasonics understanding will tell you that any change of material will reverse some of the wave energy. That's how they can image the fetus in yo baby momma's tum-tum.
 
Hungarian said:
It’s been said that Cog’s with the G10 pin offer the greatest feedback. The idea is that with any steel in a joint the shock wave reverses when it reaches the joint. With a Cog that doesn’t happen because with the G10 pin the shock wave resonates from tip to grip. Opinions?
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Simply put, different materials will affect the wave. And the wave results in feel/feedback and sound.
 
It seems to me that in a compression fit joint where the sides of the pilot actually are in contact with the inside of the joint itself the shaft/joint connection would be more solid than the pilot sitting in air inside the joint. Not scientific, but makes sense to me.

-dj
 
Jmo but I would think think the tighter the tolerances everywhere(including the joint screw), the greater the feedback in the butt.
 
Here's a few things to think about:
-if a compression fit had any advantage, why don't all cue makers use it?
-If any one specific pin size or thread had any advantage over others, then why haven't cue makers honed in on the one, unified best?
-if any joint material have any advantage over the others, then why do we still have joints made of varying materials?

I've had two cue makers tell me they've done blind testing with people that sworn they can tell the difference between all the above. They said as a group, they could not pick any better than chance and nobody individually did much better than a chance guess. That kind of blows "personal preference of feel / feedback out of the water.

I could be wrong, but I believe if someone has a strong preference, it's a placebo affect.
 
I think its pretty well established that the joint type has very little effect on how a cue plays/feels. I would never worry about these little details when looking at a cue. How it hits is all that matters.
 
As far as having the pilots trimmed, the only reason would be if you want to sell a shaft. Even then, the buyer can get it done if they need it.

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garczar said:
I think its pretty well established that the joint type has very little effect on how a cue plays/feels. I would never worry about these little details when looking at a cue. How it hits is all that matters.
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Yup, joint, pin or compression fit has never been a criteria for me either. I have lots of cues and a variety of each.

Here's what I think makes a difference (in this order):
Tip, shaft taper, weight, overall length, butt diameter, balance, shaft diameter. I used to think shaft diameter was important, but after playing with an 11mm (which felt good and I played well with), I'm saying that's not really important either.

Assuming it's straight and solid, everything else is interchangeable / decorative (as far as playability anyway)

On the subject, I knew a guy that hustled cheap at bars. He carried around a Budweiser cues with a McDermott shaft attached to it. I picked it up and played with it once. No issue, I could've played with just fine it.
 
I don't know the answer to this, I'm just wondering and/or asking. My Tascarella shafts squeeze tightly as well, and I notice there is a more pronounced ping on the hit than other cues I've played with. Could the compression fit have anything to do with that ping sound? I have a bumper on my Tasc., it's not bumperless.
 
dewajack said:
I don't know the answer to this, I'm just wondering and/or asking. My Tascarella shafts squeeze tightly as well, and I notice there is a more pronounced ping on the hit than other cues I've played with. Could the compression fit have anything to do with that ping sound? I have a bumper on my Tasc., it's not bumperless.
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Ferrule and tip?
 
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