Does a Good Triangle/Rack Make a Difference.

I like the Diamond racks but I have a pet peeve. There is a Diamond on the front of the rack for a reason. Seems like most people don’t notice the center mark on the back of the rack. I think I noticed one without the mark, but most have it. If the table has the line from the spot to the rail you can align the rack better. It now drives me nuts to see the diamond on a corner instead of the apex or the rack used upside down.
 
The Racks, the felt, the slate, the balls eventually will get dirty and get bad, but the most important thing is getting rid of that damn sticker on the spot. For God’s sake, please don’t put it on the table! Use a Sharpie or something and just mark a dot or a cross on it. Jesus Cry!!!
 
Dont blindly dismiss a material...the Diamond plastic triangle is excellent.
You know which ones I’m talking about…
There were great racks made of ABS.

I have the metallic Delta-13 rack, loves the loud noise it makes when racking… also have a wooden triangle that a carpenter made for a pool hall (that closed) and it works just as good. Wood wears with time, metal doesn’t.
But really who uses racks these days? I’ve been on the Magic Rack wagon since day one and never looked back.
The guy that invented it out of Hong Kong used to be a regular on this forum, I met him in Hong Kong when the magic rack was still in prototype state and been using them since they got into production.
 
The Racks, the felt, the slate, the balls eventually will get dirty and get bad, but the most important thing is getting rid of that damn sticker on the spot. For God’s sake, please don’t put it on the table! Use a Sharpie or something and just mark a dot or a cross on it. Jesus Cry!!!

To me the problem are cheap spots. The old Master spots were pretty good. The best I’ve seen are the Simonis spots. Super thin woven material. Although I see from their website that they may not work on Teflon coated cloth.

 
Thanks for all the input.

I was originally asking because of the nice wood racks currently listed on the FS Forum -- if I had a home table I'd buy one.

Someday someone is going to invent a titanium rack that breaks down into three attached sections that somehow snaps together for a nice tight rack and can then be broken down again into three stackable sections. IOWs, something you can transport to the PR.

Lou Figueroa
 
Thanks for all the input.

I was originally asking because of the nice wood racks currently listed on the FS Forum -- if I had a home table I'd buy one.

Someday someone is going to invent a titanium rack that breaks down into three attached sections that somehow snaps together for a nice tight rack and can then be broken down again into three stackable sections. IOWs, something you can transport to the PR.

Lou Figueroa

Someone posted about that foldable metal V rack they use at Ultimate Pool. It’s definitely portable - and to my surprise the poster above says it works well.
 
The Racks, the felt, the slate, the balls eventually will get dirty and get bad, but the most important thing is getting rid of that damn sticker on the spot. For God’s sake, please don’t put it on the table! Use a Sharpie or something and just mark a dot or a cross on it. Jesus Cry!!!
If you're playing a game with hard breaking it is unwise to proceed with no spot sticker.

Unless you like that hole that develops...
 
Someone posted about that foldable metal V rack they use at Ultimate Pool. It’s definitely portable - and to my surprise the poster above says it works well.

they use that for ultimate pool?? is it “the v-rack” or just something similar?

when broken down it fits in the big pocket of my case. i keep it in the back pouch of the drivers seat in my car, though. its secondary function is a terrifying weapon.
 
they use that for ultimate pool?? is it “the v-rack” or just something similar?

when broken down it fits in the big pocket of my case. i keep it in the back pouch of the drivers seat in my car, though. its secondary function is a terrifying weapon.

This is what they use. Not sure if it’s the same as what you have.
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I agree but when you look at the gripes & moaning over the noise, it’s like some men are having menstrual cramps.
3-4 seconds of noise apparently is too much to tolerate racking pool balls. To each their own I suppose but really
if that is bothersome, their mental stamina and concentration could be diminishing and they haven’t noticed it yet.
 
IMO, with a triangle rack, the balls being new and consistent in size is much more important than the rack. With new balls, good results come with the new Diamond plastic rack, and the Delta 13 Elite (not the cast version).

The Diamond plastic rack IMO is much better than high quality wood racks, as they all eventually chip and wear and loosen at their joints.

If I was looking for a 1-pocket setup I'd go Diamond plastic and new balls.

All that said, even with a brand new Delta 13 and brand new balls (I had both at the same time), the template racks give that setup the 6 ball in ease of a perfect rack. (for 9 ball).

Of the template racks, "magic ball rack" brand is the best, and the original commercial one. Outsville is the worst. Super hard to get them tight with that one.
I second this. Issues with racking are almost always worn/dirty/mismatched balls or the table being trained inconsistently.

I'll add that the rack being clean is important too. I've had even the good racks hold onto the 1 because they've got gunk where the ball touches and it sticks. Easily solved with a towel and a bit of iso. Maybe one of the few benefits of the AeroRack?

For templates: I've used Turtle Racks for a couple years and absolutely love them. Lower profile than many templates and they last forever as long as you take care of them.
 
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I purchased a Delta-13 elite years ago after they first came out and have never looked back. It wasn't cheap, but it still gives a tight rack after years of use and it is going to outlive me. People complained about how loud they were, but most people that own one know how to mitigate the noise with a tactical placement of the fingers while racking. Let me see...no noise or a tight rack...which would I rather have???

My problem with getting tight racks anywhere is usually the fault of the worn racking area.
How loud they were......because a solid break is nearly noise free,right?
 
I second this. Issues with racking are almost always worn/dirty/mismatched balls or the table being trained inconsistently.

I'll add that the rack being clean is important too. I've had even the good racks hold onto the 1 because they've got gunk where the ball touches and it sticks. Easily solved with a towel and a bit of iso. Maybe one of the few benefits of the AeroRack?

For templates: I've used Turtle Racks for a couple years and absolutely love them. Lower profile than many templates and they last forever as long as you take care of them.
Turtle racks work fine for most games but for 14.1or 1 pocket, it isn’t suitable and you really need to rack the pool balls.

The opening break shot and object balls reaction requires the object balls not be impeded or affected by a plastic template used to form the 15 balls rack pattern. A template helps for pool games using a hard struck break shot but otherwise it’s not intended to be used in straight pool or one pocket. You want a honest tight rack that is formed sans any template.
 
Turtle racks work fine for most games but for 14.1or 1 pocket, it isn’t suitable and you really need to rack the pool balls.

The opening break shot and object balls reaction requires the object balls not be impeded or affected by a plastic template used to form the 15 balls rack pattern. A template helps for pool games using a hard struck break shot but otherwise it’s not intended to be used in straight pool or one pocket. You want a honest tight rack that is formed sans any template.
I play primarily 10b, but yeah if I'm playing 14.1 or 1p obviously use the actual rack.
 
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