At most levels of play including tournament play, as long as the player is legitimately attempting a draw shot and miscues and unintentionally scoops the cue ball, regardless of whether the cue ball jumps or not, but still contacts the lowest ball first, I have never heard of a foul called by the opponent being upheld by the TD.
In most rules a miscue is only a foul if it's intentional, like if you scoop-jump over a ball on purpose. This is true even though most miscues result in unseen double hits on the CB with the ferrule.
This is covered in the rules. Here is what one official rule set says.
Thanks.
This is basically what I want to hear contrary to the rules. It’s much more consistent to call it a foul only because it relates to the jump scoop rule.
Yeah, there was tons of drama over this. It got called on several of the TOP pros, who looked at the refs like they were nuts. It has never been called before and everyone was shocked by it. I expect it to be called a lot going forward at pro events.
It is a foul even if it was unintentional if the shooter was trying to execute a jump shot. The premise behind calling it a foul is that the scoop unfairly assists the player in the shot. For the player to say on a jump shot --- " I didn't mean for that to happen," doesn't matter. It can be a tough call to make. Some referees are looking at where the tip contacts the cb on a jump shot and are automatically calling it a foul if it hits below center. I think it's been proven that you can hit the cb below center and perform a legal jump shot, but it's harder to do.
Absolutely BAD call. Referees need to study the INTENT of these rules.
They’ve been doing this a whole year now. All the European trained refs. That’s what I was referring to. Legit pro events, not bar bangers going for a scoop shot.
I think if it's intentional it's a foul. Good luck proving if it was intentional or not.
