Does it upset you when....

It's always bothered me but maybe that's just one of the multiple parts of my game that needs work. I know pros do it but I have always considered it to be a bit unsportsmanlike. When I shoot, I never look to see if my opponent will have a shot, not at least how others do it. If I can not tell if they will have a shot from my angle where I stand, to where I have to sit my ass down, then I'm simply left with hoping they don't have a shot or if they do that they miss. Personally, I hope I never acquire the feeling that it's ok to go run around the table and get right in line with a shot to see if it's there or not, when it's obviously no longer my shot.

akaTrigger said:
Your opponent gets a lucky roll after a miss and checks out the shot to see if they hooked you or not?

I seem to see this a lot more in the past year or so... maybe I have just finally noticed it....?

I also notice when they execute a safe they check out their shot to see if they really hooked me or not before they sit down, but this makes sense to me more.

I haven't let it bother my play, but it has perturbed me a little. I don't have the heart to do it back (yet). It's starting to be so rampant, I might have to start, LOL!
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There going to look, its human nature. Usually there is no intent, their just curious if they got there or got lucky, whatever the case. I usually don't look because usually it fairly obvious. I have though just like everyone else. If it bothers you, get your focus back on what you need to do, not what they do, you know?

Rod
 
there are so many moves and shenanigans being pulled at any given table..

everyone is trying to play head games..

I personally intentionally ignore everything my opponent does when his cue isn't in motion...

everyone has pet peeves... I have a few of my own...

it is bad when they get to you.... but it is much worse if your opponent KNOWS it gets to you...if that happens your cooked..

don't let your quirks.. win THEM the game.....

you just gotta blow it off...
 
I try to remember something I heard Danny D say on a telecast one time.

After a guy had missed but accidently super hooked his opponent, his thought was "at least you're at the table, would you be happier if the other guy had made the shot and kept you in your seat?"..........
 
Why

Why is a safety or hook, (intentional or not) anything less than something to be happy about? The bar room player in these parts call that dirty pool. The league players call it good pool.

I certainly do not want to sit down and waste my brain energy thinking about whether or not my opponent is hooked. I would rather just know. I think it being offensive is your issue IMHO.:slap:
 
Do your part to keep (or make) the game classy...

...and sit down or go to your corner when your shot is over. I have no problems with someone waiting until the balls stop rolling, but there is a difference between the way some sweat it (ducking and bobbing their head, closing an eye to see if they got there, moaning over a bad shot, taking another look at it from the opposite end of the table when your looking at it from your end) and the way SVB would sweat it. So while the pros do this as others have pointed out, most definitely do not slow the game. Just a quick peek for curiousity's sake...but surely not for the sake of planning your next shot. That excuse is ridiculous. If you can't think about two or more different scenarios while it's not your shot there might not be a pool game out there you might really excel at.
 
Mind games

It has never occured to me before that it might bother someone, so long as it doesn't get in the other guy's way or hold him up. I will usually have a quick look and if I have lucked a snooker will apologise (but smile inwardly! :grin:)

Actually, if you are feeling a bit mischievous and are not above playing a few mind games with your opponent, what you can do is play some snookers or other safes deliberately but then act like you got lucky. Most effective when not over acted. ;) Not that I would ever stoop so low ...
 
If I miss and get a lucky safety I peek at it and apologize to my opponent. Doesn't bother me one bit if someone shits a safety and is happy about it. I know how they feel. And don't even tell me that there haven't been times where you got a lucky safe out of a missed shot and were happier than a pig in shit that you got that safe out of it. We've all been there. Who cares if they look at it? Get over it, ignore it.
MULLY
 
That doesn't bother me at all. Its when my opponent points at me and does the little , "I hooked you dance" before they sit down that bothers me.
 
I do it almost every time. Mostly just to check "how" he will have to go about making the hit on the object ball. And, depending on who I'm playing, I might throw in a "take that" or a "ooooohhhh" or a "glad it's not my shot" or "you might have to use your get outta jail free card on this one" or, well you get the idea.
 
akaTrigger said:
That's what I mean, too - their body language says "yes!" (if they get lucky) or "darn it" if they don't get the hook (from their miss, mind you, not a planned safe).
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Use their body language against them. When they do that kind of stuff, make that your personal signal to will yourself to concentrate even harder on your game. They deserve a good spanking. :D

It takes time to change but when you resolve to change the weaker points of your game to the strongest parts of your game, you will be on the road to unlimited success.

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Use their body language against them. When they do that kind of stuff, make that your personal signal to will yourself to concentrate even harder on your game. They deserve a good spanking. :D

It takes time to change but when you resolve to change the weaker points of your game to the strongest parts of your game, you will be on the road to unlimited success.

JoeyA
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Always with the positive attitude, huh? What happened to a good ol' talkin' shit match? Now, that's right down my alley. If a player is quiet and subdued, then so shall I. But, if it happens to go in the other direction...well, now that is MY forte'.
 
I find myself doing this as well. I usually look to see if my opponent has a clear shot to hit, to kick or to make. It also gives me an opportunity to pay extra attention or call a ref to watch for a potential foul. My favorite is when people break, and even though all of the balls have stopped rolling, they stay at the table and try will a ball in. I especially hate it when I am the next table and have to wait for their break shot (which I am more than ok with), and then for their jedi powers to kick in.
 
True confessions......

Now, if you want to know how to set me off, when you see me shooting a difficult shape shot and you know I may snooker myself behind a ball, jump up from your chair and crane your neck to see if I got myself hooked. That's all you need to do and I am cooked. :D

JoeyA
 
Big C said:
Have you given any consideration to holding yourself accountable for mistakes made and opportunities missed? Instead of getting upset at what your opponent is doing, change you mindset and start being critically honest with yourself. Own your mistakes and accept whatever happens as a consequence. Analyze what you did wrong while you are sitting there waiting for your next turn. When you are hooked, do you look at it negatively as a prelude to losing? Or do you look for opportunities to reverse it and tie up balls, thereby making it harder for you opponent to run out and possibly getting another turn at the table?
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I specifically said, "I haven't let it bother my play,"...it only perturbs me a little and thought I would ask others.

I actually don't let bad rolls or hooks upset me that much anymore. I'm quite proud of that about myself, actually. :)

Every game is a learning experience, is how I look at things. :thumbup:
 
akaTrigger said:
Your opponent gets a lucky roll after a miss and checks out the shot to see if they hooked you or not?

I seem to see this a lot more in the past year or so... maybe I have just finally noticed it....?

I also notice when they execute a safe they check out their shot to see if they really hooked me or not before they sit down, but this makes sense to me more.

I haven't let it bother my play, but it has perturbed me a little. I don't have the heart to do it back (yet). It's starting to be so rampant, I might have to start, LOL!
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YES it does!!!
 
I don't look at my opponent at all - unless she's really hot. Otherwise, I just wait for my opponent to sit down before I get up. I'm really lazy.
 
Snarky?

scarlettrout said:
I do this alot, so I'm guilty. But I do it because I'm just now learning to really study the table, not to be rude or snarky. Or to see how badly my cue ball control was on the shot. :eek:
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Let mellowness prevail. This and lucky make misses used to really set me off as did an easy chunck miss on my part. My mind set and game improved as I don't sweat the small stuff much any more. What has really got my goat though is just what the hell is SNARKY?:shrug:
 
akaTrigger said:
I haven't let it bother my play, but it has perturbed me a little.
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This seems inconsistent to me. When your emotions change, so does your play. This is NOT to say it is a bad thing. Many people play a little better when they get a little mad. Many people fall apart when they get a lot mad. It IS important to understand these effects, if possible. Pleasures of Small Motions and A Mind for Pool get into this subject nicely.

Dave
 
Pros wait????

Bigtruck said:
I have noticed what the pros in the chair do. They wait until their opponent has left the table before approaching.

You rarely see them run into each other, if ever. Table etiquette. Let em check the leave or whatever, just wait till they leave the table to get up and shoot. ;)

Ray
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I have seen them almost run into each other! Matter of fact, I have almost been run over!!!! LOL!!! How rude! :D

Hmmmmm........
 
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