Dominant eye

Thanks for the help, Rick, Steve and RJ.

One last time, so I understand it, if the object moves out of frame when I close my right eye, that indicates right eye dominance, right?

And if so, the cue should be under my right eye, for the most part, right?

I will try to film that drill sometime, Steve. Just a matter of my having the time at the pool room without interruption. Did you mean for me to film it looking toward the camera, or from behind, or perhaps both? Could be tricky, I used my phone, propped up against the wall, and I can't remember if I can arrange that centered down one of the tables. Four of our five tables are along that wall, so hopefully I can line it up on one of them :p

Again, my thanks.

Correct, when you close your right eye, and it the object "moves", you are right eye dominant. Because your left eye is not dominant, it does not follow the "object", and you lose sight of it....
 
To get this feeling you may want to shoot a few racks with a "jump stick"

Here is a youtube link a bunch of test to determine eye dominance.

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...4.3675.5j2j6j4.17.0...0.0...1ac.1.VDuzWpUp2k8

This should help.

John

I agree with what the legendary golfer, Bobby Jones said, "I've never thought much about the master eye, I just know I play better with two than I do with one." I've always found that it's best to look down the "line of the shot," as I would at anything else in life that captures my attention. I look naturally down this "shot line" as if I were shooting out of my chest.

To get this feeling you may want to shoot a few racks with a "jump stick" to get the feeling of shooting with your head square, as if you're shooting out of the center of your body/chest. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
The pointing and hole test doesn't work all the time..

In Okie's thread, the "dominant eye" is discussed, and since I didn't want to derail his thread, I thought I'd start my own train-wreck here. :p

I know this has been beaten about over the years, and I've tried to follow it with limited success. Ekkes made a reply that seemed easier for me to follow, but I have a few questions to make sure that I'm doing the test correctly, what the results likely mean, and how I should act upon them.

Ekkes said this:
"You can do a little test for yourself:

Stretch one arm and point to a spot at the wall having a pencil vertically in your hand- holding the pencil in between your both eyes and having both eyes open.
Focus on lookin with both eyes and it may happen that you seem to see two penils. Then close your non dominant eye and see how the position of the pencil moves.
It will move more when you close your dominant eye and in the oposite direction!In case you are right eye dominant the pencil will move to the left in case you are left eye dominant it will move to the right.

Now let your both eyes open and move your head to left: In case you are right eye dominant, the pencil will move to the right in case you are left eye dominant it will move to the right as well!!! The same happens when you close the left/eye.

Now tilt your head like he does in his set position after having moved your head to the left a bit (tilt your head in away that your left ear/eye his higher then your right ear/eye) and keep one eye closed (whichone ever because if you only look with one eye this ey is always dominant :-) )

The tilting of the head brings your pencil back to to the left - the more you tilt your head the bigger is this effect which shows him his wrong picture!"

#1: Do I hold the pencil with my arm centered away from my body, or having the arm straight out from it's shoulder?

#2: When conducting this test, do I make my eyes see two pencils, or one, before shutting each eye? (Doing this with my arm centered away from my body.)

If I make myself see two pencils before closing the eye, the pencil moves when I close each eye, though it moves further to the right (when closing my left eye) than it does opposite when closing the other. But in both cases, the pencil does not stay centered.

If I let my eyes focus and only see one pencil, it moves equally the opposite direction, when closing each eye.

Based on my interpretation of the test, I "think" that makes me left eye dominant.

Assuming that all this is correct, what does one do about that? I shoot right handed. Do I try to get the cue more underneath my left eye when lining up the shot? What effect will tilting my head create?

Thanks for your patience with all this drivel I have spewed out this morning. It is interesting, I've always tired to follow the various "dominant eye" threads over the years that I've been here. It just struck me this moring to see if I could make the determination.

Give me a call when your by the table.

The conventional eye dominance tests where you point or look through a circle doesn't work for about 25% of the people trying to find their dominant eye.

Don't ask me why? I don't have the answer.

Too many times I have found that the player swears they are right eye dominant because of that test and when they get down on the shot the cue is more under the left eye and it is obvious that they are left eye dominant.

The only way that I determine which eye is dominant on a player now is to have them get down on a long straight in shot. Move the head back and forth. One way the right eye will be in the dominant position and the other way the left eye would be in the dominant position. Which ever looks the best is the eye that is dominant.

Our own Spidey is one of these players and there are hundreds more that I have worked with right here on AZ.

I'm not being arrogant when I say that I have become pretty knowledgeable when it comes to this. I've finally found doctors that can tell me why my Perfect Aim works so well.

But so far no doctor can tell me why this happens to the players.

The pointing and hole test just doesn't work for everyone.

One time I had a guy on AZ pretty much say, Hey stupid, just point at something in the distance and open and close an eye for the eye dominance.

If he only knew what I know.

But the same could be said for Perfect Aim.

If they only knew?

Give me a call. Be by a table and I'll help you with this. I have lessons tomorrow until 6:00 unless I get one more which could happen.

If so we can do it the next day. Just be by a table. 715-563-8712

Talk to you soon....I have your answer.........
 
Give me a call when your by the table.

The conventional eye dominance tests where you point or look through a circle doesn't work for about 25% of the people trying to find their dominant eye.

Don't ask me why? I don't have the answer.

Too many times I have found that the player swears they are right eye dominant because of that test and when they get down on the shot the cue is more under the left eye and it is obvious that they are left eye dominant.

The only way that I determine which eye is dominant on a player now is to have them get down on a long straight in shot. Move the head back and forth. One way the right eye will be in the dominant position and the other way the left eye would be in the dominant position. Which ever looks the best is the eye that is dominant.

Our own Spidey is one of these players and there are hundreds more that I have worked with right here on AZ.

I'm not being arrogant when I say that I have become pretty knowledgeable when it comes to this. I've finally found doctors that can tell me why my Perfect Aim works so well.

But so far no doctor can tell me why this happens to the players.

The pointing and hole test just doesn't work for everyone.

One time I had a guy on AZ pretty much say, Hey stupid, just point at something in the distance and open and close an eye for the eye dominance.

If he only knew what I know.

But the same could be said for Perfect Aim.

If they only knew?

Give me a call. Be by a table and I'll help you with this. I have lessons tomorrow until 6:00 unless I get one more which could happen.

If so we can do it the next day. Just be by a table. 715-563-8712

Talk to you soon....I have your answer.........



My ophthalmologist says I'm right eye dominant. He has more degrees hanging on his walls than any doctor I've ever been to. He did my lazik, etc. etc. He's famous, has street cred, etc.

Then Gene tells me that may be true, but after watching me for a while, he says that I should shoot left-eye dominant. So I suddenly I'm making 3 or 4 of those pesky shots that I just couldn't make before no matter how many times I tried to line up the shots. Bam!...just like that, they're suddenly falling in.....straight in, splitting the pocket!

Hmmmm....could it be? Could the guy with all the degrees be wrong? For pool he was. So, no what?

I've been shooting left eye dominant for about 6 months or so. It's been a struggle as my right eye doesn't like giving up control, but through patience and experimentation, I'm shooting left eye dominant now and doing fine. Closing my right eye sometimes is the only way for me to make my left eye dominate. I'm working on leaving both eyes open and simply allowing the left to dominate. It's a chore.

My eyes still go whacky on me now and then, but maybe left eye really is better for me, re pool?

Jeff Livingston
 
Thanks for the help, Rick, Steve and RJ.

One last time, so I understand it, if the object moves out of frame when I close my right eye, that indicates right eye dominance, right?

And if so, the cue should be under my right eye, for the most part, right?
I will try to film that drill sometime, Steve. Just a matter of my having the time at the pool room without interruption. Did you mean for me to film it looking toward the camera, or from behind, or perhaps both? Could be tricky, I used my phone, propped up against the wall, and I can't remember if I can arrange that centered down one of the tables. Four of our five tables are along that wall, so hopefully I can line it up on one of them :p

Again, my thanks.

Not particularly so. Usually we aim with both eyes so...

Our cue stick should be in a place where we know we are pointing at our selected target.

I know many right eyed-left handers and vise versa.

My answer is: don't worry about your eye dominance, get your cue stick into a position where you see it's pointing at your target.

Now all you have to do is deliver the stick on that line......:grin:

randyg
 
Here is a quick way to check eye dominance:

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/eye-dominance-502

That said, when it comes to pool it is probably more important to know your "aiming eye", which is usually the dominant eye, but not for everyone. Get down over a straight-in shot, close left eye, then close right eye, see which eye is over the cue. It could be that you straddle the cue on your nose too. It could also differ for left/right cuts. Figure out what "looks correct" for you, and move into your shots that way.
 
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