Done with Bricks - NEXT?

Martinez
Jensen,
Runde,
Haley,
Zylr,
Uncle Larry,
Mottey
Scruggs
Murrell

All Unusual and great playability and workmanship

Regards,
Doug
 
No More Bricks!

Ribdoner is going to be very distraught... but he will recover... (just kidding)

I have a very nice Highend Jensen, met with Mike over the weekend and he quoted $5K to make the same cue... let me know if you are interested...

here is a list..

Bender
Cog
Jensen
Mottey
Weston
White

up and comers
Howard
Sugartree

if you like back stories give Rick Howard a call... one hell of a player, and one hell of a under-rated cue maker...


regards,

GolfParent
 
Paul Dayton Around a long time and virtually undiscovered and quite affordable. I own two with more to come.
 
Wheeler

If you want a real challenge, then Wheeler is the way to go. His pedigree stretches from Stroud to Black to the It's George operation to Schick. I've owned every sought after cue on the planet and the playability of Mike's cues is second to none. The challenge will be getting cues, Mike makes very few cues annually but there are some nice ones floating around. The secondary market on Wheeler cues is a sellers market, most people who have them know how special they are and don't part with them easily.
 
Shurtz
Not quite in the price range of the other cues listed but pretty cool back-story.
Bob Owen is the main cuemaker and is the father of Gabe.
 
WOW! I love this place! Now that I've slept off my coffee overdose, I expected to see 1-2 replies, both saying "wrong forum, move to Main". I was planning on deleting the entire thing!

OK - where to start. Thank each and every one of you for your replies.

YES, I will gladly post some pics of these cues. I'm having one "detailed" right now and once I get it back I'll put some pics of the Collection in the Gallery.

Of all the suggestions, a few really appeal to me. JOHN SHOWMAN. RICHARD HARRIS. MIKE BENDER. MIKE WHEELER.

HUNTER hit the nail on the head. Having done deals with me, he has some insight. "the road less travelled" was the perfect statement.

I seriously considered just going after BENDERS without even thinking about other CMs.

So it's probably down to the 2 Mikes, Bender and Wheeler. Or Showman. Or S Weston. or R Haley. :p

-von
 
Capones...awesome
Gilbert...superior hit
Showman...incredible
Dayton...underated
OMEN...VERY underated


PM me if you wanna buy a Gilbert, I have an older 6 point.
 
Tim Padgett, Ed Prewitt

they are both somewhat unknown. Tim Padgett came out of Bert Schragers shop when he was in Hollywood. Ed Prewitt cues speak for themselves. Both of these cuemakers do some of the finest and unique inlay work in the business and of course they play second to none.

both of these cuemakers are very sought after in the asian markets, that should tell you something. the reason why we dont see a lot of Prewitt or Padgett especially is simply because they can make a hell of a lot more money from the collectors in Japan etc.
 
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VonRhett said:
WOW! I love this place! Now that I've slept off my coffee overdose, I expected to see 1-2 replies, both saying "wrong forum, move to Main". I was planning on deleting the entire thing!

OK - where to start. Thank each and every one of you for your replies.

YES, I will gladly post some pics of these cues. I'm having one "detailed" right now and once I get it back I'll put some pics of the Collection in the Gallery.

Of all the suggestions, a few really appeal to me. JOHN SHOWMAN. RICHARD HARRIS. MIKE BENDER. MIKE WHEELER.

HUNTER hit the nail on the head. Having done deals with me, he has some insight. "the road less travelled" was the perfect statement.

I seriously considered just going after BENDERS without even thinking about other CMs.

So it's probably down to the 2 Mikes, Bender and Wheeler. Or Showman. Or S Weston. or R Haley. :p

-von

You're fortunate .. I know someone in the area who has fine examples of all above cuemakers .. I can hook you up to see some in person.
 
PunchOut said:
they are both somewhat unknown. Tim Padgett came out of Bert Schragers shop when he was in Hollywood. Ed Prewitt cues speak for themselves. Both of these cuemakers do some of the finest and unique inlay work in the business and of course they play second to none.

both of these cuemakers are very sought after in the asian markets, that should tell you something. the reason why we dont see a lot of Prewitt or Padgett especially is simply because they can make a hell of a lot more money from the collectors in Japan etc.


Ed Prewitt...super cue, hard to come by. Doesnt he have a long list? Good choice PunchOut...
 
I agree - I totally forgot about EP. Prewitt to the short list!
Thanks again!
-von

Voodoo Daddy said:
Ed Prewitt...super cue, hard to come by. Doesnt he have a long list? Good choice PunchOut...
 
Dale Perry. They're hard to come by and every cue he makes is unique which is why they are all signed 1/1. He's also highly sought after in the Asian market.

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There's one in Oklahoma I know of that is really going to kick things up a notch next year. You might want to put in orders with him now.

:D
 
Just to throw a curveball in, here is what I would do if I weren't into my other stuff .

I think there are too many present day cue makers with too much product. The only cues worth holding onto are the ultra fancy art cues, or a handful of superstars that are already too expensive. The superstars with limited product are Szamboti, Schick, Searing, Tascarella, Hercek. But remember, just as the art cues of today make those made 15 years ago look bad, the ones 15 years from now will probably make todays cues look simplistic and cartoonish.

Here's what I would focus on from a collectible and investment standpoint:

1) 1973 and earlier Gina - these cues are still undervalued in my opinion. Pre-CNC, tons of chararacter, and nobody did it better.

2) Pre 1978 Tad cues. The older, the fancier, the better, especially the ones with the long butt caps. The inlays were cut by hand - who else could do it like Tad?

3) Frank Paradise, especially the fancy ones. It's not the cue, it's who used them. Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, many celebrities and politicians, and even a couple of pool players.

4) JW - particularly fancy older cues, 1980 and earlier. These are cheap at the moment. Bill is one of the greats and his cues remain undervalued in my opinion.

Anyway, I guarantee you there will be nobody flooding the market with these cues in the near future. They are worth seeking, worth buying, and worth keeping.

Chris
 
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VonRhett said:
With the exception of one EBONY/SILVER masterpiece that looks kinda like the famous P Weston cue - I'M DONE! (RIBDONER - any idea where that one is?? I still want to acquire it someday)

Von,

ALEX made two cues that were similiar, but not identical.

One ended up in the ROCKFORD, IL. area----maybe TUULA(sp?) I owned this cue for a minute and when sold one of the shafts (matching ringwork) was a modified PRED 314 similiar to what VARNEY is now doing. The other two shafts were "standard" BRICK shafts.

The other one is, as of now, NFS.:)

Some other makers you might consider:

Early spliced McDaniels (affordable and real sporty)

Bill (spider) WEBB ( unique cues from a unique guy--talk to him )

DIVENEY (getting better and better--good, accessable guy that stands behind his work)

As alway GOOD LUCK ,

Adam
 
Just thought of another cuemaker that has returned to the scene, and you won't find any out there with better provenance and structural integrity.

JOHN DAVIS

He worked in the shop with Burton Spain, who many consider to have revolutionized the spliced cue market when he was in his prime. John has recently started to make cues of his own again and already they are commanding pretty good money. Also, if you are really lucky, you may be able to find one of his cues from the time he worked with Burton. Those would be extremely desirable, and all would be nice and traditional I don't think you would have an argument with anyone on this board about him.
 
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