Double Hit Nip Draw Debate

[Bob Jewett]

Some people think the cue ball goes forward because it jumps over the object ball. As shown above, the cue ball on such a jump forward shot has to go pretty high into the air if the cue ball is so close to the object ball and to go that far forward. Instead, the cue ball has no visible jump.

One way to demonstrate that to people who don't understand the shot is to have them shoot it with the same elevation but start back farther, like a ball diameter. Move the balls progressively closer together. At some small separation, there will be a major change in the action due to the foul.

Years ago I played against a pretty good player who had spent time as Lassiter's road partner. On such close shots, even with a level cue, he argued that the cue ball went forward not because of a foul but rather that it had a lot of extra momentum as it had just been hit. You can't argue with logic like that.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... the earth travels about 70,000 mph around the sun and spins like around 1,000 miles and hour. ...

That's just crazy talk. If the Earth were spinning that fast we'd all be dizzy all the time. Oh... wait....

 

[maha]

read the above posts bob and you can clearly see the spinning effects.
and notice we dont have many Australian posters as many have fell off into space. and its being kept quiet.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

That's just crazy talk. If the Earth were spinning that fast we'd all be dizzy all the time.

So that's why...

pj
chgo

 

[Buckzapper]

Keep your magic shots at league or somebody will stuff your head into the side pocket.

 

[dr_dave]

So I let myself get into a debate on whether this is a good hit and am seeking additional opinions.

Any pool player who thinks that shot is legal needs to study the videos and info here:

how to both detect and avoid double hits​

 

[fastone371]

Some people think the cue ball goes forward because it jumps over the object ball. As shown above, the cue ball on such a jump forward shot has to go pretty high into the air if the cue ball is so close to the object ball and to go that far forward. Instead, the cue ball has no visible jump.

One way to demonstrate that to people who don't understand the shot is to have them shoot it with the same elevation but start back farther, like a ball diameter. Move the balls progressively closer together. At some small separation, there will be a major change in the action due to the foul.

Years ago I played against a pretty good player who had spent time as Lassiter's road partner. On such close shots, even with a level cue, he argued that the cue ball went forward not because of a foul but rather that it had a lot of extra momentum as it had just been hit. You can't argue with logic like that.

The road player was absolutely correct, the only problem was that the extra momentum that the cue ball carried was from the 2nd hit on the cue ball from the cue tip.