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mullyman

mullyman

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I was watching Dr. Dave's videos that deal with front hand, back hand, and parallel english. While I was at the pool hall last night I was giving the front hand and back hand a work out. All these years I've been using parallel......at least I feel that I have. Anyway, I set up some straight in shots and did quite a few tests with each type and I find, for myself, the front hand works best for me. With the parallel and back hand I honestly couldn't see a difference in the deflection and subsequent throwing of the object ball. The front hand worked really well though. It felt really strange pivoting my bridge hand like that but I'm going to slowly work this into my arsenal.

Thanks for the videos, I've read a lot about these but never really saw them until yesterday.
MULLY
Let me note that I was pocketing the balls with parallel but it's because I'm accustomed to adjusting for it. The front hand seems safer though.
 
Welcome to the club Mully. I have been playing with this tooo lately, Except look at my sign...no playing cue right now. But these shots are best executed with a low deflection shaft.
 
You know, I've never really been a fan of the low deflection shafts. A month or so ago I got to play with Antonio Lining and he uses some sort of LD shaft (314, OB1) I really don't remember which one it was. Anyway, he was doing all kinds of really nice spin shots, stuff that seemed on the edge of impossible. He hadn't ever shot with a JMW before so I gave him mine to shoot a few balls with. On his spin shots he wasn't getting anywhere near the pocket. He told me that he can't shoot with a regular shaft anymore. That sealed it for me. If a world class player can't adjust to a cue within a few balls then I feel he's got a handicap. I'd prefer to be able to pick up any cue and adjust to it, since I'm used to playing with deflection, than be locked in to something like that. They couldn't give me a 314 shaft. hehe!!
MULLY
 
I don't think it means much if anyone has trouble adjusting after only a few shots.

But aren't you finding that FHE by itself results in too much squirt? It seems you'd most likely need a combination of FHE and BHE, which I've found hard to do.

Which videos are you talking about? Colin's?
 
I thought this very same thing. But I need help. I have 10 years of bangeritise to work out. I have more of a passion now for pool then I ever had but I play the least I have ever played, that's in sig too..:frown: ( opps I think it's less now, i should change that). I am almost considering myself now as making a fresh start. I just need to get to a table! :banghead:

But I did take that method of thinking when it came to my cue(s) for another eason. I thought 2 years ago the my 76" reach along with always grabbing the base of the cue that I needed go to a 60" cue. Well i after 2 years went back to standard. for many reasons....

A: If I don't have my cue i have trouble adapting to 2 less inches" 3" if using a house cue.

B: Many people i know have tables where a wall is juuuust enough in the way; 2 extra inches sucks for that! I had this problem at my old house.

C: My break cue is 57" so going from that to a 60" to shoot with was tough.

So in the end if Lam low deflection shafts aren't for you then more power to you. Learn what you know and stick with I say.
 
PKM said:
I don't think it means much if anyone has trouble adjusting after only a few shots.

But aren't you finding that FHE by itself results in too much squirt? It seems you'd most likely need a combination of FHE and BHE, which I've found hard to do.

Which videos are you talking about? Colin's?
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Well, I haven't used it enough to really form that solid of an opinion on it. Just the few shots I did last night it seemed to me that the FHE had the least squirt. Then again, I'm an old dog and am used to adjusting my aim for the squirt. I may have been subconsciously adjusting my aim.

Funny thing is that when I used parallel last night on those shots I made sure not to adjust my aiming. I made myself shoot straight at the ball aiming for a full hit. When the object ball went way to the right my first reaction was "Yeah, aiming like that you'll get that." I can agree with Dr. Dave that parallel is probably the most difficult to use but what about us old dogs that are used to using it and really don't have a problem with it? I'm still curious about this FHE though. The backhand, from what I could see, wasn't much different than parallel. I had to adjust my aiming.
MULLY

Oh, about the adjusting. I agree. Playing with a regular shaft you get accustomed to making adjustments and I think you can adjust to various cues quicker than someone that uses a low deflection shaft. Poor Antonio looked like a beginner banging balls around the table. I don't want to be restricted like that.

Let me add that he could probably stop using the spin and tear me a new one, I'm not knocking his playing ability, he's a world class player.
 
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mullyman said:
Let me note that I was pocketing the balls with parallel but it's because I'm accustomed to adjusting for it. .
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M-man,
Just remember that if you are a very, very small imaginary man sitting on the ferrule; then all English is parallel. The cue ball is round; and the stick is straight. The only differences are in the way you set up and aim to use that English.

Pick what works best for you (because all of these methods give the exact same end result at impact)
 
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