Dust Deputy - Useful or not?

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After a couple of afternoons sanding down some shafts, it's more clear that dust collection is needed in my small shop.

When I search on "respirator" I mostly find references to "get a good respirator" with no brand specifics mentioned. I don't intend to spray any toxic coatings, so fine dust is my concern. Recommendations?

Also, what are your opinions on the "Dust Deputy"?

http://www.dustdeputy.com

Thanks for any guidance.

Gary
 

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I don't understand the point of it. Isn't the vacuum suppose to hold the dust too? Whats the difference in emptying out the vacuum or a 5 gallon pail? unless you have a REALLY big vacum! it's not that much extra effort. but, in concept i'm sure it would work.
 
D-Rock said:
I don't understand the point of it. Isn't the vacuum suppose to hold the dust too? Whats the difference in emptying out the vacuum or a 5 gallon pail? unless you have a REALLY big vacum! it's not that much extra effort. but, in concept i'm sure it would work.
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It keeps the chips in that bucket and fine dust from clogging up the filter.
I'm getting one.
 
look at harbour freight they have a couple decent dust collectors for cheap that work well, thats what i have.
 
Cyclone vs. Respirator

Are you searching for a respirator a a dust collection system? Two different things. Be aware that if you choose a respirator instead, that your clothes will still carry the dust back inside your home when you go inside to see the loved ones.
I don't know anything about the "Dust Deputy," but a good place to start your research is http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
From there, you can make your own educated decision.

Best of luck,
Beau
 
Hey Joey

JoeyInCali said:
It keeps the chips in that bucket and fine dust from clogging up the filter.
I'm getting one.
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Hey Joey, put a sock in it!


(The filter, that is.) :eek:

I put a piece of "Big lady" pantyhose over my filter to keep it from clogging up when I clean up shop.) Works for me.

This is not a substitute for dust collection, but every shop has to have a shop vac.
 
GEBrown said:
After a couple of afternoons sanding down some shafts, it's more clear that dust collection is needed in my small shop.

When I search on "respirator" I mostly find references to "get a good respirator" with no brand specifics mentioned. I don't intend to spray any toxic coatings, so fine dust is my concern. Recommendations?

Also, what are your opinions on the "Dust Deputy"?

http://www.dustdeputy.com

Thanks for any guidance.

Gary
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It seems the shop vac is being used as the power source for the device. The problem is, shop vacs are not designed for long term use. You can't run a shop vac for hours more like minutes. You need a blower like used in an air condition system hooked up to it. In the end, you are better off just buying a dust collecting system you can afford. You would go nuts just listening to a shop vac for more then a few minutes anyway. You can build something yourself, it is not brain surgery for a simple system. Build it for pretty much for nothing from salvaged parts. I am sure if you check youtube you will find designs for dust systems you can easily build yourself.
 
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ELBeau said:
Hey Joey, put a sock in it!


(The filter, that is.) :eek:

I put a piece of "Big lady" pantyhose over my filter to keep it from clogging up when I clean up shop.) Works for me.

This is not a substitute for dust collection, but every shop has to have a shop vac.
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Great.:eek:
I just came back from Rockler.
They have a wall mount dust collector that is sooooooo quiet.
I think I'm gonna can dust deputy.
 
Thanks to everyone for their replies, so far.

I was trying to differentiate the need between a dust collection system and a respirator. Simply using the Shop Vac as a dust collection tool still allows some of the fine sawdust into the air - it doesn't collect everything even with the hose right near the cutting tool or sandpaper.

I am aware of the Bill Pentz site and Ed Morgan's Clear View Cyclone's products. Unfortunately, Oneida (maker of the Dust Deputy) has stopped Clear View from selling their Shop Vac conversion, which drew me to the Dust Deputy.

So all your questions made me go back and read Bill Pentz's web pages some more as well as information in the Clear View Cyclones pages. It seems that you really need both - a dust collection system to pull the fine particles out of the air and a respirator to filter the air you breathe while you work and until the dust collection system can reduce the suspended dust in the air.

I'm still not sure which respirator to get, but I've got a better idea of the particle size to filter out.

Thanks and FYI all,

Gary
 
GEBrown said:
Thanks to everyone for their replies, so far.

I was trying to differentiate the need between a dust collection system and a respirator. Simply using the Shop Vac as a dust collection tool still allows some of the fine sawdust into the air - it doesn't collect everything even with the hose right near the cutting tool or sandpaper.

I am aware of the Bill Pentz site and Ed Morgan's Clear View Cyclone's products. Unfortunately, Oneida (maker of the Dust Deputy) has stopped Clear View from selling their Shop Vac conversion, which drew me to the Dust Deputy.

So all your questions made me go back and read Bill Pentz's web pages some more as well as information in the Clear View Cyclones pages. It seems that you really need both - a dust collection system to pull the fine particles out of the air and a respirator to filter the air you breathe while you work and until the dust collection system can reduce the suspended dust in the air.

I'm still not sure which respirator to get, but I've got a better idea of the particle size to filter out.

Thanks and FYI all,

Gary
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Build or buy yourself one of these things. Your shop will be the cleanest place you go everyday.
http://www.woodcentral.com/shots/shot522.shtml

On that site check out more of the shopshots lots of cool stuff
 
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There are a few brands of respirators available. I would suggest a name brand such as 3M, North, MSA. Important thing is it has to FIT you. Try them out, see what size and style you prefer. Get FIT TESTED. This will confirm that it fits you and you can get a good seal. Before each use, always do a positive and negative seal check to confirm you have on correctly.
Store it properly when not in use. Clean it with a wipe after each use and disinfect as often as you are comfortable with.

P100 filters are the most effecient out there. If you find too much breathing resistance, P95 will work. Don't forget to change them out. They can be reused for awhile, but don't last forever.

Read the instructions that come with.

My 2 cents.
 
GEBrown said:
After a couple of afternoons sanding down some shafts, it's more clear that dust collection is needed in my small shop.

When I search on "respirator" I mostly find references to "get a good respirator" with no brand specifics mentioned. I don't intend to spray any toxic coatings, so fine dust is my concern. Recommendations?

Also, what are your opinions on the "Dust Deputy"?

http://www.dustdeputy.com

Thanks for any guidance.

Gary
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Do they make a dust Sheriff? Might be the next step up.
 
Dust deputy

It works well without losing any suction, the vacuum filter stays clean a lot longer. Not meant to be used as a main dust collection system. I used it for all the small jobs done on the lathe and set up the vacuum hose right under the chuck. The Ridgid vacuums last a long time with heavy use. The smaller version runs about $38 on sale cheap to replace.

Mario
 
Hi,

For shaft sanding I built a plywood box that sits on top of my wood lathe steel bed. The top of the box is about 1.5 inches under the botom of the shaft between centers. On the top of the box I created a slit by cutting 2 boards on a 45 degree angle and bolting down so the slit is about 1/8".

I have a 3 hp dust collection system mounted in another room with a 4" knife gate at the connection into the box. When I sand with the system on, virtually all of the dust sucks right down into the 45 degree boards with the 1/8" slit. I only get some white dust on my hand from handling the sandpaper.

When I first made the system I just had a slit on top of the box from a skill saw cut. I worked but there was dust in the air. When I changed to the chamfered boards, it was like night and day difference. The angled cuts create a area of laminar flow and when I sand you can see the efficiency of the slot with the angled cut.

I truly believe that to get the most out of a dust collection system you need to isolate the system in a separate room for the best results.

Rick G
 
cuemaker03 said:
Do they make a dust Sheriff? Might be the next step up.
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Oh yeah, you can go as big as you want!! And the prices go up as well. :eek: There's also several DIY projects out on the web. Bill Pentz's site has one for his design.

Obviously, it is not for filtering a whole shop, but for collecting at the source. But if your Shop Vac is powerful enough, and you can get enough velocity through the cyclone, then you can spin out some pretty fine dust particles. After that, you can use one of the HEPA sub-micron filters in your Shop Vac for polishing. Normally, a HEPA filter like that will clog quickly on the larger particles.

There is also the argument whether (or which) HEPA filters actually filter at the advertised level.

I'm thinking at this stage that a Dust Deputy in conjunction with the overhead blower box that MacGuy showed us, would be a pretty effective solution at a cost effective expense. The modification I would use with the overhead box would be to exhaust to the outside as my shop is in my basement. That would pull clean(er) air in from the rest of the house and help keep dust from propagating out.

My 2 cents

Gary
 
I built a shed right outside my shop, and put my dust collector and my compressor in it. I don't think I could do without the dust collector. It's really nice to have it outside too, I don't care how good your filters are, you're still pumping dust into the air... if it's outside, it's no biggie.
 
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