Dynasphere Bronze balls......$100

Hoser said:
I grew up in the rust belt, I try to buy American ,support small local business etc.. Mom worked for GM 40 years and I try to support her pension. Bought her a Buick Encore then realized it was built in Korea. Most everyday items cannot be purchased made in the US. I did find a washer/dryer made in US, commercial duty, analog controls, 3-year warrantee "Speed Queen" from Wisconsin. It was the only U.S. washer in the store.
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I bought a front loading Speed Queen washer for the house. The house was an old frame home up on low piers. Threw a load of clothes in the washer and settled down to watch TV. First thing I know the house is shaking and the washer waltzes out of the washroom and into the kitchen! Didn't stop until it ran out of hose. Rent house and a linoleum floor in the washroom. I grabbed an old piece of two by four wood and some big nails. Put the washer back where I wanted it and spiked the wood down to the floor in front of it. "That'll fix ya!" It did too but the whole three bedroom home still shook when we ran a load of clothes. Maybe the best washer I ever had though.

Hu
 
speed queen is still the best washers and dryers. made in the usa still. cost more of course.

i dont mind paying more for better quality. but wont pay more for same or worse just because its usa made.
then i am just subsidizing bad business practices. for ego.
 
maha said:
speed queen is still the best washers and dryers. made in the usa still. cost more of course.

i dont mind paying more for better quality. but wont pay more for same or worse just because its usa made.
then i am just subsidizing bad business practices. for ego.
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There was a 'speed queen' in the poolroom yrs. ago but she didn't wash clothes. She did have mad skills in other areas tho. ;)
 
garczar said:
There was a 'speed queen' in the poolroom yrs. ago but she didn't wash clothes. She did have mad skills in other areas tho. ;)
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She saw him from across the crowded room, she smiled and ................. oh crap, those nasty little brown nubs just blew my fantasyo_O
 
OP was referring to the bronze set which is fairly traditional. I agree they are not as pretty as centennials but good enough for who they were for, (me). I don't care for the design and color of the platinum set either, that's why I chose the bronze, exact color of my aramith set and same material as the premiums.
 
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Mick said:
All Dynasphere balls use the same resin. I got the tungsten set for $70. Same quality as their top tier balls, just lacking in appearance.
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Hoser said:
OP was referring to the bronze set which is fairly traditional. I agree they are not as pretty as centennials but good enough for who they were for, (me). I don't care for the design and color of the platinum set either, that's why I chose the bronze, exact color of my aramith set and same material as the premiums.
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They have a US site. Different balls sold looks like. The highest end balls no longer have that rotor looking thing, just a standard circle. I think they realized the rotor was gonna be a very hard sell in the US of A!

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
They have a US site. Different balls sold looks like. The highest end balls no longer have that rotor looking thing, just a standard circle. I think they realized the rotor was gonna be a very hard sell in the US of A!

Hu
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That helps, but I still say until they change the gray 6-ball and the light green 7-ball, the high end set will not sell as well as it otherwise would! Even swapping the two colors on those two numbered balls, would be a huge improvement.
 
ChrisinNC said:
I’m not a fan of the Dynasphere platinum balls I see they are using at the junior international tournament this weekend. I find the shape around the numbers to be tackier than the predator logo pool ball sets.

Also, the colors are really strange and hard to follow when watching a livestream match. I’m sure if they are for me, they are for others as well. The 6-ball appears to be a light brownish color and the 7-ball appears to be a coral green color - makes absolutely no sense!
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I played on them a few times, I actually don't mind the design, aside from the color changes which seems to be in fashion now with the ball makers for whatever reason. I played with someone that got an Aramith sparkly ball set that played well enough but was such a pain to tell the balls apart without looking at the numbers. I doubt this new thing of messing with colors will end anytime soon, it's only getting worse as seen by that hideous Black set.
 
hang-the-9 said:
That does not make any sense form a business or cost perspective. Who would make a $100 set be identical aside form looks to a $300 set? That's a great way to sink a company.
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It does seem odd, especially to advertise their most expensive and least expensive balls are the same other than machine time to make them. However, that is Dynasphere's claim. Perhaps they think they can make up the difference in price on volume but like you I question this. One reason I bought spare sets of the cheap balls after playing with them, they do play great. Far superior to the cheap plastic balls and seemingly as good as the expensive set of balls I had long ago.

Hu
 
I don’t find the pricing unusual at all. I think of the price variety in pool cues, autos etc. Vanity plates. The machine work to precision is obviously significant. So the plain brown wrapped against the Christmas wrap. Even the step in price from tungsten to bronze is obvious to me. I started with a tournament used Cyclop set($130/around) as an award to myself back around 2012. They have served me well. They show the abuse my Fisher table sewer system inflicted but held up well. I could not resist the sub $100 price on the tungsten set. When I saw the bronze set colors I splurged for $130.
So anyone that sees the bronze set on my table should know they are getting First Class treatment.
 
by having a so called loss leader the company will get established as a major player in the business. then later they can drop that line or make changes.
if they just start off with high priced balls they may never get enough players interested. and if they just have low priced ones they look like any other cheap company.
 
ShootingArts said:
It does seem odd, especially to advertise their most expensive and least expensive balls are the same other than machine time to make them. However, that is Dynasphere's claim. Perhaps they think they can make up the difference in price on volume but like you I question this. One reason I bought spare sets of the cheap balls after playing with them, they do play great. Far superior to the cheap plastic balls and seemingly as good as the expensive set of balls I had long ago.

Hu
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I msg'd D'sphere and they said ALL balls are made using same resin/finishing process.
 
gregcantrall said:
I don’t find the pricing unusual at all. I think of the price variety in pool cues, autos etc. Vanity plates. The machine work to precision is obviously significant. So the plain brown wrapped against the Christmas wrap. Even the step in price from tungsten to bronze is obvious to me. I started with a tournament used Cyclop set($130/around) as an award to myself back around 2012. They have served me well. They show the abuse my Fisher table sewer system inflicted but held up well. I could not resist the sub $100 price on the tungsten set. When I saw the bronze set colors I splurged for $130.
So anyone that sees the bronze set on my table should know they are getting First Class treatment.
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I have never heard anyone buying pool balls based on how they look if there was a quality difference, at least not any real players that would care about such things. Yes there are comparisons with same prices for looks, but if one set is THREE times the cost of another, and they are the exact same product, that is not enough to buy just on looks. For pool rooms, who cares, for home tables, who cares? Pool cues are a different animal, you use them anywhere you go, people actually look at it. No one carries a set of balls around to impress people when they pull them out (at least the ones you use on the table ;) )
 
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garczar said:
I msg'd D'sphere and they said ALL balls are made using same resin/finishing process.
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Anyone have several sets to compare them to? I played in two pool halls that had the Platinum set but did not have any other set from that brand to compare. I do know that the Platimum played just like the Armamith Pro and Tournament set did, leaning towards the Pro cup for the cueball reaction vs the Tournament which was tougher to move around.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I have never heard anyone buying pool balls based on how they look if there was a quality difference, at least not any real players that would care about such things.
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I have a hard time parsing this sentence.
A quality difference is not necessarily reflected in the price. Undoubtedly value is a price/quality factor and can’t be determined with just one variable.
I accepted the tungsten set as the best value. I accepted the bronze set as a good value and was willing to pay a little more for the pleasure of the colors. I see no difference in the quality of the 2 sets.
As to the “real players “. Huh? I am a real player and know lots of real players. That commonality has nothing to do with personal preference or ability to spend more just to look good.
 
garczar said:
I msg'd D'sphere and they said ALL balls are made using same resin/finishing process.
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This matches their claims on their sites. I didn't make clear that all of the balls in between are also the same quality resin, all have exactly the same tolerances too. Thanks for making it clear this applies to all balls.


My bronze balls arrived a few minutes ago. I wasn't a happy camper, the outside priority mail box was torn corner to corner. When I took the balls out the security seal had been torn completely apart too. For some reason the shippers inspected all the way down to looking at the balls. So far there doesn't seem to be any harm but this set has been meddled with, somewhere between the seller and me. Looks like the post office at play. Wonder if they have a pool table stashed away somewhere?

Not sure when I will play with the balls but I did do a side by side comparison between the tungsten and bronze sets. The expected color changes but other colors appear deeper and richer. At a quick glance I would say seven balls are different.

I may get a chance to hit them tonight, might be a day or two. I expect them to play just like the tungsten balls, and that ain't bad!

Thanks again for posting the link. I'm pretty sure I got exactly what I paid for and it came two to three days sooner than the ETA!

Hu
 
So I bought a set from the linked buyer (who, btw, I've bought from before with success). The balls I got were not wrapped, just had a single sticker holding the lid onto the box. When I opened the box, the balls were all quite dusty. Is this typical of brand new balls? I haven't bought new balls very often, but the last set I got was shrink-wrapped, and the balls were squeaky clean out of the box. These balls all look ok otherwise, but it does make me wonder about the lineage of the set I received.
 
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