Benelli
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Absolutely, please have your CEO friend send over a couple of sets of balls to dissectI work directly with the CEO of Saluc. He is not aware of any heterogenous materials in the products. Please use a bandsaw and a camera.
Absolutely, please have your CEO friend send over a couple of sets of balls to dissectI work directly with the CEO of Saluc. He is not aware of any heterogenous materials in the products. Please use a bandsaw and a camera.
You would need to use a filler in both materials to bring them to exactly to 1.72 g/cm3 or the ball won't be regulation-weight.Well, we have seen balls with a shell split open revealing another, smaller ball inside, so it has been done.
If the density of the core is very close to the density of the outer shell, it doesn't need to be perfectly centered. The centering can probably be controlled. Both of those come down to developing manufacturing processes and I think neither one is impossible to get close enough.
I think the best way to find out for sure is to get a set of balls and visit a band saw.
Whatever dude. Believe what u want. Until someone proves otherwise i'm gonna stick with the co's answers. I agree, cut some in half and show us those phenolic over resin balls. i've never seen the pics mentioned by BJ.Again, the devil is in the details; they did not say they only made 100% phenolic balls. The Aramith rep I met was the one who explained this to me, not some bullshit on the web. The only way they have to reduce cost is the materials in the ball...
My god, the amount of distrust people have on this site is only tempered by how much of their opinion is baked into the desired answer.
What Bob is referring to is situations like these:You would need to use a filler in both materials to bring them to exactly to 1.72 g/cm3 or the ball won't be regulation-weight.
That A'mith cueball has gotta be a knockoff. They are all over the place on asian sites. BTW, A'mith msg'd me and said the Continentals use/used the same resin mix as the Premier and Crown Standard. Difference is the Conti's have screen printed numbers. Some good info tossed around today. Off to hit some..............................What Bob is referring to is situations like these:
There is one pic I can't find of a Aramith ball that has pieces of nine nine-ball inside it
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I agree with this statement, emphasis on resin mix...BTW, A'mith msg'd me and said the Continentals use/used the same resin mix as the Premier and Crown Standard. Difference is the Conti's have screen printed numbers.
Yes, that's what I said. Also, you can effectively reduce any remaining error due to density errors by developing an accurate centering process. I'm not saying it's easy or even that it's done in current production. I'm just saying that if there were a large advantage to cored balls, it could be done.You would need to use a filler in both materials to bring them to exactly to 1.72 g/cm3 or the ball won't be regulation-weight.
I didn't know that blue circles specifically had cores but I did know that many do. I've also seen broken balls myself with OB cores like shown above.Yes, that's what I said. Also, you can effectively reduce any remaining error due to density errors by developing an accurate centering process. I'm not saying it's easy or even that it's done in current production. I'm just saying that if there were a large advantage to cored balls, it could be done.
Were you aware that blue circle cue balls had cores of a different material?
I really could care less what color any ball set is, I don't think the color of the balls makes you miss....hey, I didn't think of that....the color of the balls is making me missIt's funny, me personally, I love the look of the Tungsten more than just about all the other sets (from any vendor). I like how there is just a simple black ring, and nothing else. The color choices, I understand the dislike for. But the design itself is so simple and pretty, IMO.
polyester resin balls. save your money.I was thinking about getting these for the heck of it.. i like the look of them.
that pic of the torn open cueball is a knockoff. no aramith balls are made like that. the market is flooded with aramith fakes. if its not from a known dealer AND in original package there's a good chance its a fake. as for the blue circle's with cores those may have been made by Hyatt. Since A'mith took over making Cent's(44yrs ago) i doubt they made any that way.I didn't know that blue circles specifically had cores but I did know that many do. I've also seen broken balls myself with OB cores like shown above.
Good points above. I was thinking in terms of pure material but the idea of adding fillers to match densities is perfectly reasonable and something I didn't think much about.
It’s not a knockoff. Aramith coin opp CB’s start as another OB, then the magnetic layer is added. They’ve been shared on here cut/broken open for 20 years.that pic of the torn open cueball is a knockoff. no aramith balls are made like that. the market is flooded with aramith fakes. if its not from a known dealer AND in original package there's a good chance its a fake. as for the blue circle's with cores those may have been made by Hyatt. Since A'mith took over making Cent's(44yrs ago) i doubt they made any that way.
until aramith tells me that i'm not going for it. they make three diff. mag. balls: one has a magnet in the center, the other have magnetic particles mixed in. still think its a fake.It’s not a knockoff. Aramith coin opp CB’s start as another OB, then the magnetic layer is added. They’ve been shared on here cut/broken open for 20 years.
The tournaments have an outer layer that is like a glass material. They call it 'vitrification' which is a fancy name for a glass-like surface. That's why they stay cleaner and burn less. i've seen pics of a tournament cut in half and there's no separate core, just a phenolic ball with a fancy outer surface.Speaking of cores, Ivan Lee was discussing with me this year at a tournament that the "Aramith Duramith Tournament Set" is made differently than the other sets, (within the Aramith brand only). I didn't understand him fully at the time, but it was something to the effect of the center of the ball is made first, and then the rest of the ball is added to it. That's why the numbers on the Tournament Set are perfectly centered compared to other sets (within the Aramith line). He made it seem as if it was a difficult process but they were able to figure it out, and the result is a higher quality ball overall.
Also of note, he's the president of Simonis USA too. He said he has 760 on his home table
<== Loves 760.
This was different. It affected the concentricity of all the inlays. Made the ball more aesthetically perfect. Ask him since you have his earThe tournaments have an outer layer that is like a glass material. They call it 'vitrification' which is a fancy name for a glass-like surface. That's why they stay cleaner and burn less. i've seen pics of a tournament cut in half and there's no separate core, just a phenolic ball with a fancy outer surface.
This was different. It affected the concentricity of all the inlays. Made the ball more aesthetically perfect. Ask him since you have his earI honestly don’t remember it well, just what I said here.