e-Readers Kindels "Fire"
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I'm waitingI'm leaning toward the Nook myself, for one reason, you can walk into any Barnes and Noble if you have questions. Barnes and Noble already has user groups which meet in their stores.
The BN down the street from me has user meetings twice a month.
BN gives free ebooks to their nook customers every Friday. Mostly they are romance, sci-fi, and general fiction titles. I don't think Amazon does that.
You can lend books with the new Fire device. BN has had that service on their devices for over a year.
BN is going to release hundreds more apps for their app store in December.
The new nook tablet has a microphone built into it. This makes it possible for parents to create their own audio books for their younguns. Record yourself reading your kids favorite books and they can have you reading books to them even when you are not there.
The nook tablet and nook color both have animated children's books for sale.
The nook tablet and nook color both have animated children's books for sale.
If you're going to spend more money go with the HP Touchpad
Not sure, but I can say the screen on my kindle went crazy about 3 months ago. I called Amazon and told them about 8am. They had a new one at my door the very next day. You can't beat customer service like that. The kindle was about 9 months old.
That is pretty good. My nook color screen cracked due to my own stupidity one night around 7 pm.
I drove up to my BN and they traded broken one for a new one. They set it up for me and sent me on my way. I was home in time for dinner at 8 or so.
The nook warranty is awesome and the fact that you can get a new one in a few hours can't be beat.
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My thought would be that you should buy a tablet that is unrestricted. You can read books on any tablet and get all Amazon content on any tablet and any computer. I have the Ipad2 and I use the Kindle app to read all my books. As well you can use the Kindle cloud reader straight from the browser.
The screen size is a major factor. I have played around with the smaller tablets and they aren't much better than a phone for reading and browsing the web. I have the Ipod Touch as well and have used it to read several books.
My vote goes towards the Ipad 2, 64Gb with 3g. This is the nuts as far as a tablet goes. NOt only does it work really well on many many many levels but it's very very very durable. It has been dropped many times and keeps on going. I value high quality and this is one high quality piece of equipment. I also have it jailbroken so that I can do a few other things with it that other developers outside Apple thought would be useful. Such as I can use it as a hotspot and I can turn apps on and off easier and free up memory whenever I need to.
All that said I did have a Motorola Droid phone for a while and I LIKE Android. If the Kindle and the Nook are not crippled and you get the full Android experience then maybe they are well worth the price. $200 is a good price for something that's probably more capable than my Ipod Touch.
We just find the Ipad so useful in so many ways that I can't bear to think of getting a tablet where I would lose any of that functionality.
Agreed 100%
If you're going to read actual books, I suggest a regular Kindle with e-Ink. The fire (and the ipad/ipad2) has an IPS LCD screen, which is like a really good computer screen. E-ink is better for long-term reading (a couple hours).
If you don't have a use for the camera or 3G found on the iPad, get the Fire. Don't spend more than you have to... get the product that meets your needs for the least amount of money.
If you don't have a use for the camera or 3G found on the iPad, get the Fire. Don't spend more than you have to... get the product that meets your needs for the least amount of money.
Hierovision:
I tend to agree with you. The Kindles I've seen (the regular one, not the Fire) have a really "soft" (to the eyes) display, conducive to long periods of reading without eye strain. Even the best LCD screens, while great for moving pictures (e.g. LCD TVs), can cause eye strain with still pictures (as in book text). As a Cisco network architect, I spend the majority of my work time in front of some of the finest LCD screens in the world, and I find the need to have to take a break at hourly intervals to rub my eyes and give them a rest, because they HURT. That's even after manipulating screen resolutions, refresh rates (whether to be the fastest possible [75 or even 100Hz], or even to match the refresh rate of lighting around me [60 Hz]), or fonts. The LCD screens are just too harsh for long-period viewing where the eyes are focusing in one spot.
Also, I don't like the idea of "everything but the kitchen sink" bundling of multi-use apps in one device, like the iPhone / iPad, for the purposes of book reading. I read a book to GET AWAY from the electronic communication leashes in our lives, not to continue to be chained to them. The idea of reading a book on an electronic leash (e.g. cell phone; Internet-attached tablet with interruptive apps like email, TXT messaging, or social networking [e.g. Facebook]) just does NOT appeal to me whatsoever. The gadget geeks among us -- those in favor of the all-in-one devices -- may argue, "but just turn-off the cell phone, and disable your Internet connection," but that's a lot of work just to settle down to read a book. Plus, the temptation is always there to engage that stuff during lull periods in whatever you're reading (instead of forging ahead), and now you're off-track -- Facebooking, yapping on the cell phone, or whatever.
There's something to be said about too much interruption, and to attempt to welcome back the quiet mind into our lives. That's what a book does for you -- to remove you from the stresses of our interruptive reality, so a device designed for that purpose should itself be non-interruptive.
Just IMHO,
-Sean
Yep. I have the regular kindle with the keyboard. When I want to read a book, I pick it up and flip the switch, and up comes the last page I was on when I turned it off. I can read for HOURS with no eye strain.
I read a book once in PDF form on my computer, and I couldn't read for more than an hour without it getting uncomfortable.
I read a book once in PDF form on my computer, and I couldn't read for more than an hour without it getting uncomfortable.
I read "Steve Jobs" by Walter Issacson in one day last weekend on the Ipad. I simply adjust the brightness to be comfortable and that works for me with no eye strain. I have a Sony Reader as well that uses e-ink I think. It's ok but not nearly as nice or easy to use as the Kindle app on the Ipad.
For Sean, turning "off" the world on the jailbroken Ipad is as simple as two taps. I agree that it's best to do that to sit down and enjoy a book. For that matter I still like actual books, I like the way they feel, the touch, and the fact that they don't need batteries. But they do need power (light) to read them just the same.
For us the Ipad is an everything device. For me it's books and a sketchpad as well as a video reference library that I use to show leatherworking techniques. For Karen it's email on the way to work, skype to talk to the family, weibo (Chinese twitter) to keep up with her friends and a ledger to record expenses, for Jessie it's a learning and entertainment center. At 2 and a half she can open it and navigate to exactly the app she wants, be it a book, a learning game or a video. That's amazing to me.
I can't even count all the ways that the Ipad has been helpful to us. It's a navigation device using google maps, it's a reference device when I have been on sourcing trips, it's a phone using skype, and using both Apple's bookshelf and Amazon's app and Google Books it's a virtually unlimited library. For myself I wouldn't consider any device that is only a reader. I want the whole thing and can then make it be whatever I need it to be at the time.
I did read that the Kindle has been partially rooted (jailbroken) so it might be possible to get the full Android store. But it also supports sideloading so you can put other apps on it not vetted by Amazon.
Regarding the Nook it seems as if on the 16gb one only 1gb is dedicated to NON Barnes and Noble content. Which means that 15 GB is useless unless you fill it with PURCHASED items from B&N. That's a lot of money to spend using that amount of space.
One thing about the Kindle and the Book is that they will bring the prices down somewhat. I feel that charging Ipad prices for Android devices is a stretch. With the prices coming down it will put a lot more tablets in reach of a lot more people. When I bought the Ipad the comparable Android device was only $100 cheaper so it was a no-brainer for me to go with the Apple product.
Enough with the commercial. Someone buy the Kindle and give us a real AZB review. What we REALLY want to know is how does the forum look and can you load Swype to type 10,000 word posts faster.....
(no swype on Ipad, I don't think)
For Sean, turning "off" the world on the jailbroken Ipad is as simple as two taps. I agree that it's best to do that to sit down and enjoy a book. For that matter I still like actual books, I like the way they feel, the touch, and the fact that they don't need batteries. But they do need power (light) to read them just the same.
For us the Ipad is an everything device. For me it's books and a sketchpad as well as a video reference library that I use to show leatherworking techniques. For Karen it's email on the way to work, skype to talk to the family, weibo (Chinese twitter) to keep up with her friends and a ledger to record expenses, for Jessie it's a learning and entertainment center. At 2 and a half she can open it and navigate to exactly the app she wants, be it a book, a learning game or a video. That's amazing to me.
I can't even count all the ways that the Ipad has been helpful to us. It's a navigation device using google maps, it's a reference device when I have been on sourcing trips, it's a phone using skype, and using both Apple's bookshelf and Amazon's app and Google Books it's a virtually unlimited library. For myself I wouldn't consider any device that is only a reader. I want the whole thing and can then make it be whatever I need it to be at the time.
I did read that the Kindle has been partially rooted (jailbroken) so it might be possible to get the full Android store. But it also supports sideloading so you can put other apps on it not vetted by Amazon.
Regarding the Nook it seems as if on the 16gb one only 1gb is dedicated to NON Barnes and Noble content. Which means that 15 GB is useless unless you fill it with PURCHASED items from B&N. That's a lot of money to spend using that amount of space.
One thing about the Kindle and the Book is that they will bring the prices down somewhat. I feel that charging Ipad prices for Android devices is a stretch. With the prices coming down it will put a lot more tablets in reach of a lot more people. When I bought the Ipad the comparable Android device was only $100 cheaper so it was a no-brainer for me to go with the Apple product.
Enough with the commercial. Someone buy the Kindle and give us a real AZB review. What we REALLY want to know is how does the forum look and can you load Swype to type 10,000 word posts faster.....
(no swype on Ipad, I don't think)
Wife got both the Kindle 3G, and received Kindle Fire on 11/16/2011. Wife is learning how to operate the Fire, but it might be easier to use than than this window xp and faster to web, email, app. & etc. You get one month of Prime free. She haven't watch any movie yet. I might steal it from her.
e-Ink is better on the eyes than any LCD. Some LCDs (like IPS) are far better than others (TN sucks and should only be used for gaming), but e-Ink is still healthier for the eyes.
