Earl was right

[BasementDweller]

You missed.

I've missed.

We've all missed.

Merry Christmas.

 

[jviss]

It’s not the facing itself – it’s the angle of the pocket facing which Dr. Dave refers to as the pocket facing angle. Some of the very toughest playing pockets might measure 5 inches or even 5-1/4 inches across at the mouth, but taper back to 3-3/4 inches at the very back of the facing. Regardless of the pocket mouth measurement, anytime a pocket facing angle, as measured with a protractor, exceeds 143°, the pockets will play extremely tough, particularly shots down the rails and on harder paced shots.

This is an excellent point that isn't made elsewhere in this thread so far. See Dr. Dave's paper on TDF (table difficulty factor):

https://billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2013/nov13.pdf

 

[td873]

I love to blame the equipment as well, but almost 100% of the time, it's me. But I still love to blame the equipment

IMO, you should use warm up as a way to figure out which pockets need more attention and/or a more "perfect" hit. And, if you can't during warm up, you should be watching the other games.

Funny how people on here have a fully formed opinion on whether the OP was at fault or whether he was robbed by a bad pocket, without having seen the shot or the pocket.

That's literally the point of the internet. To make unsupported conclusions based on limited information. If we were there, why would we need the internet at all? ha!

-td

 

[one stroke]

I agree with everything you said but, most rooms today have similar equipment compared to others.

Most all rooms within two or three hours of my house ( many, many rooms ) have diamond tables. Yes, one room's diamonds plays a little different than the next but, it's usually so close that it doesn't matter to anyone that can play at a very consistent level.

Now, years ago, OMG...you never knew what to expect from table to table in pretty much any room...don't even want to think about from room to room....it was like night and day then.

Now days, going from one room to another is usually a different in how well they maintain the room conditions, not the tables so much.

Jeff

Well I don't know if you know my old friend Tommy K ,, he would go beserk about dirty pocket faces and how it affects shots , generally speaking if you have a tad of rotation on the object ball turning in the direction of the pocket the ball goes much easier
On a diamond is you kiss the foot rail side of the pocket towards the point you have no chance with its deep shelf , gold crown that ball still might go ,


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[ShootingArts]

a warped cue ball

I love to blame the equipment as well, but almost 100% of the time, it's me. But I still love to blame the equipment

IMO, you should use warm up as a way to figure out which pockets need more attention and/or a more "perfect" hit. And, if you can't during warm up, you should be watching the other games.


That's literally the point of the internet. To make unsupported conclusions based on limited information. If we were there, why would we need the internet at all? ha!

-td

People find all kinds of reasons they missed but at least 99.43% of my misses are due to a warped cue ball. Warped cue balls have a tendency to find equilibrium so the issue isn't noticed shot after shot. Then you get to that tough shot when having a perfect cue ball matters and the cue ball has came to rest in an awkward state.

The unsuspecting shooter like myself hits the cue ball and it rolls off line first to the left, then to the right, impossible to tell where the cue ball may wander while seeking equilibrium and the next thing we know we have missed through no fault of our own.

The warped cue ball strikes again!

Hu

 

[td873]

People find all kinds of reasons they missed but at least 99.43% of my misses are due to a warped cue ball. Warped cue balls have a tendency to find equilibrium so the issue isn't noticed shot after shot. Then you get to that tough shot when having a perfect cue ball matters and the cue ball has came to rest in an awkward state.

The unsuspecting shooter like myself hits the cue ball and it rolls off line first to the left, then to the right, impossible to tell where the cue ball may wander while seeking equilibrium and the next thing we know we have missed through no fault of our own.

The warped cue ball strikes again!

Hu

Dang! I'm going to pay more attention to the cue ball. Makes perfect sense now that you mention it Hu!

-td

 

[ShootingArts]

I wish I had a dollar

Dang! I'm going to pay more attention to the cue ball. Makes perfect sense now that you mention it Hu!

-td

I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody has picked up a cue ball and carefully studied it after I proclaimed the cue ball was warped!

Hu