Earl's 11 vs Mosconi's 526???

donny mills said:
Ahh dam! I remember russ maddox, I liked him. I believe he passed away not that long ago. Do you know russ's speed when he played his best?

Did earl get paid that million or part of it for running the racks?
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Russ was a good shortstop speed. He could run 50-60 balls in 14.1. He would beat the average scuffler who came through looking for a game. It took a good player to beat Russ.

Earl settled for a considerable amount of money in a a lump sum payment. Read Pool Wars for more detailed info. I'm not about to tell that whole story on here. It's just too long. Sorry Donny.
 
muttley76 said:
The "funny stuff" I think has to do with Earl having some combos and 9 on the break for some of the 11. I could be wrong, but I thought it was 11 for a mil, and he ended up running 12, cause #11 was a combo. Jay could tell us the whole story, I am sure. I also seem to remember that the insurance didn't want to pay, and CJ Wiley shamed them into a settlement by saying he would pay it, but I don't think he got the whole mil. I hope somebody in the know(AHEM, JAY) will tell us all of it.
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Read my post #11 on here. The million was supposed to be for running ten racks. Earl ran eleven total.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
4X8 with 4.75" pockets. But he didn't have the advantage of the nice cloth played on these days. Lord knows what kind of shag carpet they used to play on back then. BTW, I don't believe he picked the table. It was at one of his exhibitions and that happened to be the table he played on that day.
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The amazing thing about the run is that Willie himself said that while he was practicing on the table before the match he felt a little bit off his game, saying he had trouble running two racks!
 
sjm said:
Don't forget about Archer's well-known thirteen-pack gambling against Bustmamante. Of course, the gold standard is the fifteen-pack by Niels Feijen, which ocurred during the warmup for a Eurotour event, the longest known string on a big table that had witnesses. Specifically, while preparing for the 4th Open Weert 9-Ball Championship event on October 29, 2003, in a challenge match against French player Donald Du Bois, Feijen broke and ran 15 consecutive 9-ball racks on a regulation 4 1/2 X 9' table.

I think Mosconi's 526 is stronger than Feijen's fifteen-pack.
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SJM, I remember one time reading about Roger "The Rocket" Griffis playing in a tournament (Texas ???) being down 12-1 and he tied the match only to lose 13-12; but I cannot recall against whom. Do you know about this match?
 
I'm on the fence on this one. I see Mosconi's 526 as a milestone that will never be topped. Regardless if John Schmidt goes in and runs 700 tomorrow morning or not. The 526 was done on far less stable equipment. As for Earl's 11, I rank it right up there but have mixed feelings on it. First, if I recall correctly, out of that 11 racks he had 5 wins right off the break by making the 9. That alone is an incredible percentage. The 9 going in off the break 5 out of 11 times? The numbers are astronomical. But even with that, those are 5 racks he didn't actually "run". That leaves us with 6 racks, which for Earl Strickland, doesn't seem that amazing. But, where I'm going to give him the big credit is that game ball on the 10th rack. As I understand it he broke and then made a table length cut shot that in turn cut the 9 into the corner. I'm sorry, but with a million dollars on the line, going for that shot? It takes some serious cojones. So, I give them both the respect they deserve but I think I will give the 526 the edge over the 11.
MULLY
 
juegabillar said:
SJM, I remember one time reading about Roger "The Rocket" Griffis playing in a tournament (Texas ???) being down 12-1 and he tied the match only to lose 13-12; but I cannot recall against whom. Do you know about this match?
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Sorry, Harold, I'm not familiar with the match to which you refer.
 
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jay helfert said:
Good call Iron. I WAS there, racking the balls for racks 6-11. I write about it in my soon to be released (promise!) book. The tables were tight (4.5") Gold Crowns and NO ONE was running any racks. Earl figured out a way to break on this one particular table. He made two nine balls on the break in the first five racks and left one or two others close to the pocket. When I took over, we put a stop to that, but he still ran out the next five racks.

Earl's feat was incredible, particularly the combo he made on the tenth rack. But I would have to go with Mosconi's 526 as the greater accomplishment. JMHO of course.

By the way, it was common knowledge "back in the day" that Lassiter had run 16 racks of 9-Ball on someone for the cash. Even he sheepishly admitted (he was not one to brag) that 16 was his best run. There were occasional rumors about someone running more racks but they were never verified, so they remained just that, "rumors". Lassiter's 16 was accepted by most because there seemed to be verification that it happened, by people who witnessed it. There was also a rumor that Lassiter had run 21 racks on someone. When asked about it he said that he thought that in one game he didn't make anything on the break and the guy pushed out. So in his mind that didn't count.
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Jay , i was at the CJ's tourny as well. with Earl knowing there was additional pressure on the running racks w/the million $ involved, it made for an electric atmosphere. i have never met you, but i do remember there being a change in who racked. i wish i would have gotten to meet you, i was too busy trying to find someone to donate my money to
 
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