Earl's comments about 8 ball

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lewdo26

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I think this is deserving of a thread: Earl actually says in the interview that, and I quote, he "can't wait to start playing 8 ball." Even though the context of that comment had to do with the use of the cut/soft break, it is interesting to note that EVERY pro I've seen comment about the IPT is excited about it (and not only because of the money).

Gabe Owen, in a conversation with a friend of mine at the World Summit, used Earl's words exaclty: "I can't wait." He also said he loves the idea of playing on slower cloth.

The same, of course, goes for Mike Sigel.

The pattern so far has been (as far as I can see) that, the *pros* are excited about the IPT and the switch to 8 ball on slower cloth. The *amateurs* keep saying that 8 ball is a game for bangers. Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
Well I am a amature and really excited about the IPT. I really hope they go down to 4 inch pockets though. 8-ball is a far better game for the pro's, 9-ball needs to go.
 
lewdo26 said:
I think this is deserving of a thread: Earl actually says in the interview that, and I quote, he "can't wait to start playing 8 ball." Even though the context of that comment had to do with the use of the cut/soft break, it is interesting to note that EVERY pro I've seen comment about the IPT is excited about it (and not only because of the money).

Gabe Owen, in a conversation with a friend of mine at the World Summit, used Earl's words exaclty: "I can't wait." He also said he loves the idea of playing on slower cloth.

The same, of course, goes for Mike Sigel.

The pattern so far has been (as far as I can see) that, the *pros* are excited about the IPT and the switch to 8 ball on slower cloth. The *amateurs* keep saying that 8 ball is a game for bangers. Go figure. :rolleyes:
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Players can't wait because of the money, not becuase of the slow cloth.

Nobody likes to go from a good rolling cloth to a slow cloth becuase it really throws out your game. The "slow cloth" issue is being used as an excuse, so that people won't say that it is because of the money.

Show me the money!
 
There were quite a few players wanting to know more about the IPT. Some players didn't even know there was a IPT.

Earl's comments echo'd much of what the top 30 players are saying.

Earl was also a big supporter of the 'break box'. But, with the cut shot break, even the break box has lost its original purpose.

At this level of skill, these players just need to make a ball on the break for a huge advantage.

Earl's 4th place finish guarantees an all Pinoy finals.

IMO this has been one of the top US Opens I've ever witnessed. The playing level is outstanding.
 
juegabillar said:
Players can't wait because of the money, not becuase of the slow cloth.

Nobody likes to go from a good rolling cloth to a slow cloth becuase it really throws out your game. The "slow cloth" issue is being used as an excuse, so that people won't say that it is because of the money.

Show me the money!
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I have no reason to believe that you know what's going on in Earl's mind better than Earl himself. So I think I'll take the man's word for it. Earl has had a problem with the format of 9 ball events for a while, and Gabe had no reason to lie in a private conversation. My friend isn't a reporter for Billiards Digest, and Kevin Trudeau wasn't listening in on our conversation.

And by the way, I've heard pros say they'd prefer playing on slower cloth much before the inception of the IPT. Deadaim has mentioned this fact in several threads on this forum.
 
There were quite a few players wanting to know more about the IPT. Some players didn't even know there was a IPT.

Earl's comments echo'd much of what the top 30 players are saying.

Earl was also a big supporter of the 'break box'. But, with the cut shot break, even the break box has lost its original purpose.

At this level of skill, these players just need to make a ball on the break for a huge advantage.

Earl's 4th place finish guarantees an all Pinoy finals.

IMO this has been one of the top US Opens I've ever witnessed. The playing level is outstanding.
 
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Tom In Cincy said:
Earl was also a big supporter of the 'break box'. But, with the cut shot break, even the break box has lost its original purpose.

At this level of skill, these players just need to make a ball on the break for a huge advantage.

Earl's 4th place finish guarantees an all Pinoy finals.

IMO this has been one of the top US Opens I've ever witnessed. The playing level is outstanding.
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Was it Rodney who said he'd prefer 10 ball since he's not very fond of "break contests"?

I'm excited about changes on our way, still I enjoyed this year's Open very much.
 
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lewdo26 said:
Was it Rodney who said he'd prefer 10 ball since he's not very fond of "break contests"?
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I agree here. I know Danny Harriman is a big proponent of 10-ball also. 10-ball is more conducive than 8-ball to a TV format also. I don't think there's any balls that go right in on the 10-ball rack like the wing ball in 9-ball (although maybe the head ball could be made in the side easily).

Nevertheless the outs are harder since there's one more ball to create problem areas/clusters. 8-ball is a good game (esp. last pocket), but I don't think it will fly on TV which is important with respect to sponsorship money (outside of the IPT that is). JMO.
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Tom In Cincy said:
There were quite a few players wanting to know more about the IPT. Some players didn't even know there was a IPT.

Earl's comments echo'd much of what the top 30 players are saying.

Earl was also a big supporter of the 'break box'. But, with the cut shot break, even the break box has lost its original purpose.

At this level of skill, these players just need to make a ball on the break for a huge advantage.

Earl's 4th place finish guarantees an all Pinoy finals.

IMO this has been one of the top US Opens I've ever witnessed. The playing level is outstanding.
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What is the "cut shot break"?
 
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The pros should be playing 10 ball, winner breaks with no break box. They should play on tables with 860 Simonis and 4.5" pockets that are cut like the Diamond tables.

Why is everyone trying to reinvent the game of pool by moving the rack and changing the rules everytime someone complains. Only the people in the US really understand the game of 8 ball. They play 9 ball everywhere else you go. You will see more racks run in 8 ball then you have ever seen in 9 ball with the pros.

Steve
 
Tablemechanic said:
The pros should be playing 10 ball, winner breaks with no break box. They should play on tables with 860 Simonis and 4.5" pockets that are cut like the Diamond tables.

Why is everyone trying to reinvent the game of pool by moving the rack and changing the rules everytime someone complains. Only the people in the US really understand the game of 8 ball. They play 9 ball everywhere else you go. You will see more racks run in 8 ball then you have ever seen in 9 ball with the pros.

Steve
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I'm cool with 10 ball AND I'm not wishing for the extinction of 9 ball. I simply think that 8 ball should be included. Let's see what happens. Apparently I'm not the only one who's excited about the prospects.
 
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I hope everything works out. I think it will be very good for pool. With the money he is putting up, we should start to see some other tournaments with more money added. I agree that something has to be done to help out the state of pool. It will be nice to see the pros play for some life changing money for once.

Steve
 
Tablemechanic said:
The pros should be playing 10 ball, winner breaks with no break box. They should play on tables with 860 Simonis and 4.5" pockets that are cut like the Diamond tables.

Steve
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I disagree with that pocket size. 4 inch pockets, the US Open on the non-TV table were perfect this year for pro pool.
 
Tennesseejoe said:
What is the "cut shot break"?
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Just hitting the one ball with a cut shot intention, rather than hitting the one ball FULL.

Cue ball comes off the one, then into the side rail and then back into the rack, hopefully the one will go into the side or corner pocket.
 
i would like to see straight pool again, i know it is boring, but i love to see big runs
 
lewdo26 said:
I think this is deserving of a thread: Earl actually says in the interview that, and I quote, he "can't wait to start playing 8 ball." Even though the context of that comment had to do with the use of the cut/soft break, it is interesting to note that EVERY pro I've seen comment about the IPT is excited about it (and not only because of the money).

Gabe Owen, in a conversation with a friend of mine at the World Summit, used Earl's words exaclty: "I can't wait." He also said he loves the idea of playing on slower cloth.

The same, of course, goes for Mike Sigel.

The pattern so far has been (as far as I can see) that, the *pros* are excited about the IPT and the switch to 8 ball on slower cloth. The *amateurs* keep saying that 8 ball is a game for bangers. Go figure. :rolleyes:
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Another reason Earl is excited about this new IPT thing, jump cues not allowed.
 
wakuljr said:
i would like to see straight pool again, i know it is boring, but i love to see big runs
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You should make it up to the Derby City Classic in January. They'll be having a straight pool event this year.
 
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