Ebay Balabushka...

flyvirginiaguy said:
Inlays were done long before Paradise. So, no, it was not a discussion about inlaying a cue.

But, if Paradise did a gambler cue before George, by all means, show it to us. If he did a domino cue before George, again, please show it to us, with the proper datings.
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Ebay Balabushka... - 02-22-2014, 02:04 PM


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Which to me seems to be about a Balabushka on ebay...

Frank was the first to do inlays in the 'modern' era.

LONG before Ernie or George.

Do you deny both of them did inlays suspiciously similar to Frank's work?

Unfortunately I missed the memo granting you control over exactly how
discussions could be permitted to vary from the orginal post.

Would please post a picture of that authorization - be certain to include
the date.

Dale
 
TATE said:
It's real, I promise. I took it from Guy Huybrecht's antique website -

http://users.skynet.be/billard.billiards/sum.htm

Guy is a cool dude - amazing knowledge of old Billiard cues.

Cue inlays were pretty much a revival of the European decorations.
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Thanks for reminding me. I stumbled acorss this site several years ago,
and had pretty much forgotten about it. Notice how much influence
Hiolle of France had on later cues.

I absolutely love the antiques.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
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Ebay Balabushka... - 02-22-2014, 02:04 PM


http://m.ebay.com/itm/221376472612?nav=SEARCH
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Which to me seems to be about a Balabushka on ebay...

Frank was the first to do inlays in the 'modern' era.

LONG before Ernie or George.

Do you deny both of them did inlays suspiciously similar to Frank's work?

Unfortunately I missed the memo granting you control over exactly how
discussions could be permitted to vary from the orginal post.

Would please post a picture of that authorization - be certain to include
the date.

Dale
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I doubt anyone was copying anything. Most of the inlay patterns are just common you may see. There is no genius putting some dots at the ends of a long veneer to hide the slot and create a finished design.

Balabushka made accordions and concertinas before he made cues. They are commonly adorned in MOP inlay and it was just normal for Balabushka to carry that over to his cues. He didn't need anyone to give him inlay ideas.

Guitars, banjos, tables, chairs, and the list would go on all have inlay that can be seem and provide ideas for what can be done on a pool cue. You have a chicken and egg problem here when you talk about who is copying who. The whole thing is a dumb conversation with no answers.
 
macguy said:
I doubt anyone was copying anything. Most of the inlay patterns are just common you may see. There is no genius putting some dots at the ends of a long veneer to hide the slot and create a finished design.

Balabushka made accordions and concertinas before he made cues. They are commonly adorned in MOP inlay and it was just normal for Balabushka to carry that over to his cues. He didn't need anyone to give him inlay ideas.

Guitars, banjos, tables, chairs, and the list would go on all have inlay that can be seem and provide ideas for what can be done on a pool cue. You have a chicken and egg problem here when you talk about who is copying who. The whole thing is a dumb conversation with no answers.
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To clairify - I didn't say, nor imply, anything about copying, per se.

If you read all my posts, and a few others in other threads, you will see
my comments pertain to the fact that some people obsess about who
"invented" a design - esp as pertains to Ernie, but no one ever seems
to acknowledge Paradise.

FYI - George absolutely 'copied' an entire cue - the much beloved Model 6
from the 1st Palmer catalog - because it was so popular.
Nobody cared at the time - and again, FYI - I don't mind in the slightest.

Dale
 
I don't know about the 6. but we have had two Bushkas that were so close to the number 3, there was definite borrowing.

However I believe George was not the borrower...

It was Paradise that made the clear window popular. George did them, as did Palmer.

JV :wink:
 
pdcue said:
Frank was the first to do inlays in the 'modern' era

Dale
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That is funny. I have seen Rambow cues with inlays older than a Paradise. Or, do you define the modern era as starting with Paradise in his shop making cues? :rolleyes: Is it 2014 FP now?

The original post was an ebay link. The questions asked were regarding the domino pattern and then a question on a gambler themed cue. Is it so difficult to keep up with the subject of the questions asked?

Did classiccues mention who wants to tell Ernie he was not the first to inlay a cue? Did Kevin ask who the first was to inlay a cue? The topic was dictated by the questions asked.


If you had asked the question (and broadened the subject), with who was the first to inlay a cue? Some here probably could give you a close answer, but it would not be Paradise nor Rambow.
 
10 minutes left

10 minutes left, suspense is killing me. I wish I could afford it.
 
Ok so someone bid on it, didn't meet the reserve, relisted and then the listing was removed. Did someone here get it?
 
I owned and played with a Balabushka with the same design.
It was in the very early 1960's.

Jimmy Moore had one just like it the year before and was playing with it in Johnson City.

Bill Stroud
 
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