Ebony John Davis Cue F/S

lenoxmjs

lenoxmjs

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Up for sale is a recently aquired John Davis Cue. This cue was delivered to the original Purchaser about 2 months ago. The gentelman was extreamly disappointed with the finish and I purshased the cue from him. I have just recieved the cue back From Darrin Hill. Darrin fixed this cue giving the cue a total refinish, bumper in the buttcap, and a rewrap. Everything is now just as perfect as can be. The cue is now a total stunner. Before and after is totally unbelieveable.

A 4 Point Ebony Cue with veneers of Black, Silver , Blue, and Natural. Maple Forearm. 3 Shafts with Ivory collars and rr track ringwork. Solid Ivory joint 3/8 -10 pin. Soft Black leather wrapwith some nice grain.

SOLD!!!!!

Will post photo's tonight when I get home from work.
 
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Just curious...what were the issues with the finish? Wondering because I have one ordered. Thanks...
 
lenoxmjs said:
Box is cleared. Will entertain interesting trades + or - cash. Thank You
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Well, I for one am really looking forward to seeing the pics. I thought John's blanks were great, but wasn't too crazy about that first 'all Davis' cue that was posted in this forum a couple of weeks ago. I heard a similar story about finish, but I'm hoping it was this same cue and that it was an anomaly.

Plus, now that I have officially given up posting in the Main Discussion Forum, I have to get a double-fix over here in 'Wanted/For Sale', so give us some pics to talk about! :)
 
A few people have already Pm'ed asking why I am atacking John Davis. This is definately not my Intention. I just felt it was important to point out that even though John built this cue it was refinished and atlered by Darrin Hill. In my opinion for the better.

John is an old school cuemaker who builds some of the best blanks on the planet.

I am an auto mechanic by trade doesn't really mean I should paint my own car.

Keep in mind all this is JMO.

Pic's will be up in about 2 hours.
 
I would not worry about getting attacked on AZ - that's just how "they roll" :)

But I have to admit, I tried to be careful about how I worded my question to you about the finish. Partly because I have tremendous respect for John Davis' work and history, partly because he is a helluva nice guy, and partly because I know how touchy everyone here is in their continued efforts to correctly attach their lips to the proper sets of buttocks.

It would have been much easier for you to have said that the cue had a finish problem and that it had been completely refinished to pristine condition, but instead you said exactly what you knew to be true, and you'll get hammered here for that.

Your description was fine IMO, and I look forward to seeing the pics.

lenoxmjs said:
A few people have already Pm'ed asking why I am atacking John Davis. This is definately not my Intention. I just felt it was important to point out that even though John built this cue it was refinished and atlered by Darrin Hill. In my opinion for the better.

John is an old school cuemaker who builds some of the best blanks on the planet.

I am an auto mechanic by trade doesn't really mean I should paint my own car.

Keep in mind all this is JMO.

Pic's will be up in about 2 hours.
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How does it play??

I to have an "all Davis" cue on the way. How does the cue play? Are we just talking about the finish....and....Do you have any before (Hill refinish) pics?

Thanks,
jdsons
 
Here are the pic's. Cue weighs 20.0oz . Comes with 4 matching shafts

13.08mm 12.95m 12.52 mm and 12.35 mm. All shafts have Ivory Ferruls.

Ringwork is a combination of ivory and maple "tracks". Joint is Ivory, Shaft Collars are Ivory. Butt is Delrin.

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John Davis 004.jpg
 
jdsons said:
I to have an "all Davis" cue on the way. How does the cue play? Are we just talking about the finish....and....Do you have any before (Hill refinish) pics?

Thanks,
jdsons
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I do not have any before pic's of the cue. This cue and it's shafts are unplayed so I can not comment on it's "play". The cue is unsigned.
 
Sold Sold Sold!!!!!!!!!!

Cue is sold pending Payment. Thanks to all those who inquired.
 
Here's how John Operates!!!

In regards to the ""Gentleman"" who originally bought this cue from John Davis. I saw John this weekend and he mentioned this very Cue. He said that the customer was not satisfied with the cue and John wanted to give him a full refund, but the ""Gentleman"" waited until he sold the cue to mention any problems to John. John asked me to see if I could find out who the ""Gentleman"" had sold it to, so that he could still make it right. John who is a real "Gentleman" was very upset that he was never given the opportunity to make this right. Thought all of you AZer's might want to know how John operates. He's a Straight Shooter. Thanks, Greg
 
Noone got up on his feet straight from birth and walked the walk. I have ordered a couple of cues from Mr. Davis and I look forward to receiving them. I am positive I will be well pleased,as everyone else should be.
 
I think what is important is that the cuemaker is willing to rectify the problem. But also important is getting it right the first time. Or at least do a quick inspection before sending it out.

Can't really blame the gentleman for selling it away. Usually when you have a very high expectation of a cue and it arrives looking nothing like the way you expected. The disappointment can be very great. I have been there before.

Looking at the picture of the cue now i think he is probably kicking himself for selling it instead of having it rectified.

Best regards
Chris
 
Thanks for the pm reply, lenoxmjs. I understand that John is an "old school" cuemaker that is catching up...with some exceptional advisory help...I have no doubt that if there are any problems, he is more than willing to make it right, as he is making cues that will be historical. His advisors are, no doubt, coaching on the best current best practices for all aspects of cue-art, except, of course, the making of exceptional full-splice cues.
 
You have to understand...

that John has been out of cuemaking for decades...standards, finish and techniques were totally different. John "is" a stand-up guy and as already noted and we are watching history. You can count the current full cues on your two hands that he has made, the blanks are tremendous so it is just a matter of time before the process is perfect. If any of you have talked to cuemakers like I have, they have all had to start somewhere...and if John had stayed in the business you wouldnt be able to even talk to him on the phone let alone get a cue for a long time. Be patient.

As rayjay has noted, he is getting some higher order help and more intensive training that is on the way this summer.
 
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