Educating sellers???

Hunter

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Hi all,

I was just looking at the thread about the Rambow cue that was recently on Ebay. Brings up an "ethics question". I see where a few of our AZB'rs were shocked that they had lost the cue at $2,500+. Well, I emailed the seller and asked for a "Buy It Now" price within thirty seconds of his listing. He absolutely had no clue what he had. He told me he had bought it at an estate sale and didn't have the foggiest clue about what to ask, so he said I should make an offer. I didn't try to offer a ridiculously low amount ($1,500), and I think he was literally going to accept the offer when somebody decided to educate him as to the maker and the potential value. Now, suddenly he was a cue expert and didn't want to continue the negotiations.

I had a similiar situation happen about a year ago with another fancy Rambow. I actually had the seller "sell" me the cue via Paypal. He left the auction running after I paid him and, of course, someone educated him, as well. I gave him $1,000 for that one, and he told me he had less than $50 in it. Should have been a good deal for both of us. After his education, he immediately called me back and said he was refunding my money and selling it to the highest bidder.

I'm not the kind of person that sets out to screw anybody. My question is "why do we feel the need to educate these sellers"? This is where we find that occasional diamond in the rough. I don't think that either of these sellers went back where they bought the cues initially and shared in their windfall, do you? I can see educating those that have a genuine interest, but to educate sellers simply to maximize their profits just seems dumb. I know this doesn't sound too politically correct, but I'm not a real politically correct guy anyways. I feel it has taken me years to learn what little I know about cues. I think they need to pay their dues or become better at their research...

Opinions?

Thanks!

Steve
 
Big Shot Brownie points

These guys that ‘educate’ the sellers, are ones that have absolutely no intention of bidding/buying. Hence they are really independent , as cue addicts correctly states, wanna be big shots. They don’t care about the would be buyer, or really the seller, just looking for internal big shot brownie points.
 
I feel the same and had a similar experience recently myself.
Was in the works of buying a bundle of otherwise junk house cues with what appeared to be 2 1 piece Titleists in the mix and 1 2 piece that could very well have turned out to be a Rambo or Spain blank that had been converted (photos were bad quality).
Seller had all of $12 invested in total and thought my offer of $300 was incredible. The day I Pay Pal him he sends me a email saying he was letting the auction run because he didn't want to break any eBay rules...
Hours later his auction was updated as "Titleist Full Splices and Possible Rambo!":mad:

Sold for over $900 and I hope the "educator" won and got Taiwanese crap.:p
 
cueaddicts said:
Guess that everybody wants to be a big shot in one way or another.....


You R sooooo right.....deal knockers, action knockers and groupies that steer roadies pro bono are pretty much cut of the same cloth:(
 
Hunter said:
Hi all,

I was just looking at the thread about the Rambow cue that was recently on Ebay. Brings up an "ethics question". I see where a few of our AZB'rs were shocked that they had lost the cue at $2,500+. Well, I emailed the seller and asked for a "Buy It Now" price within thirty seconds of his listing. He absolutely had no clue what he had. He told me he had bought it at an estate sale and didn't have the foggiest clue about what to ask, so he said I should make an offer. I didn't try to offer a ridiculously low amount ($1,500), and I think he was literally going to accept the offer when somebody decided to educate him as to the maker and the potential value. Now, suddenly he was a cue expert and didn't want to continue the negotiations.

I had a similiar situation happen about a year ago with another fancy Rambow. I actually had the seller "sell" me the cue via Paypal. He left the auction running after I paid him and, of course, someone educated him, as well. I gave him $1,000 for that one, and he told me he had less than $50 in it. Should have been a good deal for both of us. After his education, he immediately called me back and said he was refunding my money and selling it to the highest bidder.

I'm not the kind of person that sets out to screw anybody. My question is "why do we feel the need to educate these sellers"? This is where we find that occasional diamond in the rough. I don't think that either of these sellers went back where they bought the cues initially and shared in their windfall, do you? I can see educating those that have a genuine interest, but to educate sellers simply to maximize their profits just seems dumb. I know this doesn't sound too politically correct, but I'm not a real politically correct guy anyways. I feel it has taken me years to learn what little I know about cues. I think they need to pay their dues or become better at their research...

Opinions?

Thanks!

Steve

It wasn't me. I just quietly set my snipe.

I've learned to be careful about what I say, because i really don't want to burn anyone. If specifically asked, I will be honest.

However, the guy that is selling the Szamboti/Palmer on E-Bay, I did send him a note telling him it was neither. Mainly, I hate to see someone buy it and overpay in the hopes that it's something it's not. E-bay will do nothing about false advertising.

Look at the flip side. Someone told the guy that sold me the Szamboti it was worth $2500.



Chris
 
knock knock .Whats really brutal is when one of these idiots have something & really over inflate the value.That ad was a tough one because the pics were lousy. The wrap on the one looked shaky but the butcap was a giveaway. I'm no expert on Rambow but when I was a kid and a Willie Hoppe was the cue of choice a Rambow was the dead nuts.
 
daniel said:
knock knock .Whats really brutal is when one of these idiots have something & really over inflate the value.That ad was a tough one because the pics were lousy. The wrap on the one looked shaky but the butcap was a giveaway. I'm no expert on Rambow but when I was a kid and a Willie Hoppe was the cue of choice a Rambow was the dead nuts.

Oh, that particular Rambow was a great cue. I had not seen one with butterfly spliced shafts before. Someone said they didn't think the buttcap was real ivory. Looking at the cue, even with the bad pics, it looked totally original to me including the ivory buttcap, the ferrules, the leather wrap, the shafts, the joint - the whole enchilada. In fact, the only real wear I could see on the cue was from time deteriorating the finish and maybe some swelling in the ferrules. The cue was the real deal, and it was an unreal find. If it had been used much the penciling would have been a little worn.
 
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