Elephant ear wrap
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Sounds as if elephants were made for pool players. We use the ivory for balls, inlays, and ferrules and now using the hide for wraps. I also seen a cue case made out of the trunk. Cornerstone had it. Need to use the hide for tips. What else can we salvage?
The hide seems as if it would be a very hard wrap and not wear out. At worst it would just need to be replaced with something else. That is one of the nice things about wraps is they are replaceable.
The hide seems as if it would be a very hard wrap and not wear out. At worst it would just need to be replaced with something else. That is one of the nice things about wraps is they are replaceable.
Trading in, buying or otherwise supporting the slaughter of exotic animals is unethical. 
You should put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
You should put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
supergreenman said:Trading in, buying or otherwise supporting the slaughter of exotic animals is unethical.
You should put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
how about lisards wrap!!! i have already posted this before but i got exactly... 0 reply's. we suport the slaughter of elephants, the slother of cute little lizards, and i hate it. makes me mad. we have the technology to replace these natural materials with composite materials. why not use it.
mm gives me an idea, ill try to post a new post about it, with enough pictures to make everyone sick. solly's little shocj therapy.
supergreenman said:Trading in, buying or otherwise supporting the slaughter of exotic animals is unethical.
You should put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
I'm not clear on why the word "exotic" is relevant in your comment. I would say that what makes it unethical is the fact that you could make a wrap that works just as well out of something else that didn't require the death of an animal.
I don't think killing animals for food is unethical because it sweems to be the way of nature. But killing animals because their body parts have uses which could be easily fulfilled by something that wasn't part of a living animal, it just seems senseless to me.
-Andrew
I used exotic on purpose, I have no problem with people using leather because it's a by-product of our food industry. I do have a problem with people killing animals (including lizards SollyAndrew Manning said:
)to use thier hides or other parts for fashion etc.
Purdman said:
I'm sure they do somewhere, and those that kill an elephant and feed their entire village off the meat have my approval. But a lot of people kill (or at least used to kill) elephants and take the tusks and the ears and leave most of the animal to rot. If there wasn't such market demand for ivory and elephant-ear leather, this wouldn't happen as much.
But you raise a good point; if the animal were killed in order to feed people, and then its ivory and ears and whatever else were sold, I wouldn't have a problem with that. It's the wasteful killing of an animal for a few of its parts that seems like a total shame to me.
-Andrew
Wow didn't know that the azbilliards Forum was moonlighting as a PETA forum. I gotta tell you all that I never really figured this place for that with all the Ivory and such floating around. While I'm at it I gotta tell you I really Enjoy Hunting( Deer, Elk, Turkeys, Ducks, Ect) and I do eat everything I kill. I also donate heavily to the following orginizations Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, And of course the NRA. I really believe that Hypocricy here is actually amazing to me.
Teddy Roosevelt one of our greatest presidents, an avid hunter and sportsman is probably the single greatest force behind the establishment of our national park system. You know the ones where you go to enjoy tree hugging and eating nuts and berries. While were on the topic I believe that it is fees from sportsman that are used to sustain most of these areas. I also know that as an out of state hunter my Montana license was over $1000. When is the last time any of you ponied up that much dough to the enviroment. Put your money where your big mouths are.
I guess to be more ethical I 'll have him build me 2 cues that way we'll use both ears
Teddy Roosevelt one of our greatest presidents, an avid hunter and sportsman is probably the single greatest force behind the establishment of our national park system. You know the ones where you go to enjoy tree hugging and eating nuts and berries. While were on the topic I believe that it is fees from sportsman that are used to sustain most of these areas. I also know that as an out of state hunter my Montana license was over $1000. When is the last time any of you ponied up that much dough to the enviroment. Put your money where your big mouths are.
I guess to be more ethical I 'll have him build me 2 cues that way we'll use both ears
Solartje said:how about lisards wrap!!! i have already posted this before but i got exactly... 0 reply's. we suport the slaughter of elephants, the slother of cute little lizards, and i hate it. makes me mad. we have the technology to replace these natural materials with composite materials. why not use it.
mm gives me an idea, ill try to post a new post about it, with enough pictures to make everyone sick. solly's little shocj therapy.
With all due respect, don't you have in your bio your dream is to have a Jack Justis lizard case?
supergreenman said:Trading in, buying or otherwise supporting the slaughter of exotic animals is unethical.
You should put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
Ethics are by-products of society and very widely from culture to culture. I am by no means a tree hugging member of PETA but organizations such as these do provide a valuable service. They balance the social structure and raise awareness--there must be conservatives to balance liberals and vice versa. The use/harvesting of "exotic" skins are governed by strict law and ones opinion to use or not to use a product is the beauty of our society.
I personally like leather wraps and my favorite is a smooth calf skin wrap. I have tried elephant and it is also very nice. Good luck
Purdman
Banned
Solartje said:people eat people too: canibalisme... thats doesnt make it ethical either purdman.
My friend, there are a holes all over this country that shoot animals and just take the head w/antlers or the tenderloin. I can asssure you that I am not one of them. As a matter of fact, if I saw one do it, and there was nobody around, they would be left there to rot with the animal carcass. There are African tribes that live on elephant meat. I wouldn't mind giving it a try myself. I will eat anything once. There are only two things that will never pass thru my lips again. Chitlins, boiled w/venigar and salt and pepper, and an exotic fruit eaten for desert by the Cambodians. Thanks for the roll eyes.
Purdman
Here is the fruit I was talking about. It is a Durian, "The King of Fruit"
http://home.arcor.de/be/bethge/durianengl.htm
Anybody here ever try it?
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Most Elephant for cues is actually Cowhide
Our Elephant leather, is actually cowhide with an embossed Elephant skin print.
Our Elephant leather, is actually cowhide with an embossed Elephant skin print.
Purdman said:
Then we're in total agreement (except I wouldn't go so far as to say I'd kill someone over it).
To lenoxmjs: All PETA and tree-hugging references aside, I think the objections to elephant's-ear being used on a cue are born out of concern that elephants are being poached for their ears and left to rot. If you are sure that using the ears doesn't directly or indirectly lead to more poaching, than you can have your cue and enjoy it with a clean conscience. All I'm saying is that I'm not so sure that using the product doesn't cause more people to go out and do things Purdman would shoot them for, and it's your ethical duty to take that into consideration.
And I'm not sure who you're responding to with your hunting comments; nobody on here has objected to the kind of hunting you're talking about, at least not in this thread.
-Andrew