a tip shaper is a good, cheap, easy to get, jig to press tips in...
elk master tips
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manwon said:
Ah, the voice of real experience - thanks! I have a couple of questions:
How many tips do you press at one time?
Don't they spread out without a jig's walls to keep their diameter constant? Seems you would have trim them and they would be thinner than necessary.
Why five days instead of four or seven? I wonder if soaking the tips would reduce the time needed to obtain the same compression.
What are the changes in diameter and thickness after five days?
Unknown said:
"Betty," urine straight out of a healthy body is a virtually sterile solution of harmless organic compounds, a few dead blood cells, and water. Shortly after a pitcher of beer, it's just water that's safer than what comes from the tap.
Soaking a tip in urine before pressing is a form of sympathetic magic. "The idea (is) that one can influence something (the tip and its performance) based on its relationship to another thing," namely your chi or life force, which is in your urine and your body. The chi in the tip makes the tip more susceptible to influence by the body's chi.
The chi in your urine-soaked tip carries your wishes for the tip's performance: how hard it strikes, how much it compresses upon impact, how fast it rebounds, how well it grips the cue ball or slides off for a purposeful miscue, etc. The tip gradually assumes the characteristics you desire under the constant influence of these "programming instructions" in your urine.
When you shoot, your body's chi flows along the cue through the tip to the cue ball, temporarily magnifying the influence of the chi in the urine-soaked tip and adding instructions specific to the shot of the moment. The tip, already conditioned to chi's influence, more readily does as you wish it to do on each shot.
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Dhakala said:"Betty," urine straight out of a healthy body is a virtually sterile solution of harmless organic compounds, a few dead blood cells, and water. Shortly after a pitcher of beer, it's just water that's safer than what comes from the tap.
Soaking a tip in urine before pressing is a form of sympathetic magic. "The idea (is) that one can influence something (the tip and its performance) based on its relationship to another thing," namely your chi or life force, which is in your urine and your body. The chi in the tip makes the tip more susceptible to influence by the body's chi.
The chi in your urine-soaked tip carries your wishes for the tip's performance: how hard it strikes, how much it compresses upon impact, how fast it rebounds, how well it grips the cue ball or slides off for a purposeful miscue, etc. The tip gradually assumes the characteristics you desire under the constant influence of these "programming instructions" in your urine.
When you shoot, your body's chi flows along the cue through the tip to the cue ball, temporarily magnifying the influence of the chi in the urine-soaked tip and adding instructions specific to the shot of the moment. The tip, already conditioned to chi's influence, more readily does as you wish it to do on each shot.
P. S.: I can hardly wait to see if this BS gets spread all over the Internet, spawning a fad of yellow tips!
had it not been for the post script some people may have actually bought it lol could you imagine the smell though
At the Carolina Open Earl Strickland said that he now uses elkmaster. He said Efren Reyes used a layered tip for 3 weeks and went back to elkmaster and that was good enough for him. Do not know if he represents them or not.
I've changed to elkmaster and still play bad. Casey
I've changed to elkmaster and still play bad. Casey
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tip choices
I have used the Elks for years because I liked a soft tip. In the past year I tried a couple of Triangles. I could not tell the difference really.
Last month I got a new Pedator Z shaft (Ebay)which came with allegedly a "medium Moori" tip. If it's truly what it is said to be- I'm sold!
I have always been pretty consistent and careful about chalking before each shot but always would have a couple of miscues or more in a few hours of play. Had always just chalked it up (pun intended) to bad luck, bad stroke, too hard a stroke with extreme english, or " shoot enough balls, it's bound to happen eventually", etc.
Well this tip has changed my mind completely. In three weeks of daily 1-2 hours of play, I have miscued 3 times- all 3 times I had been lazy and not chalked before a draw or english required shot. Also I have deliberately gone 3-5 shots in a row without chalking and not miscued with off center hits. I can consistently hit lower with confidence than I ever could with the cheap tips.
I have heard this a million times from players who buy the high priced tips-
" you get what you pay for". Well inspite of myself being a tightwad, cheapskate, unwilling to part with a few dollars, loser of a player- I will now be happy to pay $10 for another one of these! my $.02
( I don't sell Moori's, work for anyone who does- don't even know who Moori is!)
I have used the Elks for years because I liked a soft tip. In the past year I tried a couple of Triangles. I could not tell the difference really.
Last month I got a new Pedator Z shaft (Ebay)which came with allegedly a "medium Moori" tip. If it's truly what it is said to be- I'm sold!
I have always been pretty consistent and careful about chalking before each shot but always would have a couple of miscues or more in a few hours of play. Had always just chalked it up (pun intended) to bad luck, bad stroke, too hard a stroke with extreme english, or " shoot enough balls, it's bound to happen eventually", etc.
Well this tip has changed my mind completely. In three weeks of daily 1-2 hours of play, I have miscued 3 times- all 3 times I had been lazy and not chalked before a draw or english required shot. Also I have deliberately gone 3-5 shots in a row without chalking and not miscued with off center hits. I can consistently hit lower with confidence than I ever could with the cheap tips.
I have heard this a million times from players who buy the high priced tips-
" you get what you pay for". Well inspite of myself being a tightwad, cheapskate, unwilling to part with a few dollars, loser of a player- I will now be happy to pay $10 for another one of these! my $.02
( I don't sell Moori's, work for anyone who does- don't even know who Moori is!)
I don't know about that. I have two boxes of Triangles that I had to weed through. About half were junk, IMO.tedkaufman said:
Same holds true for LePros and ElkMasters. About half of the ones in my boxes aren't going on any player's cues. Bar cue maybe, but not player's.
Fred
well i have never played with one but do like soft tips. whole reason im buying this box is that i need a tip on one of my cues and thought i would try them out. box of 50 for 17 bucks...put 4 on at the hall for 5 bucks and make my money back with 46 to spare. any good ways to burnish without a lathe, or is the good-ol' spit shine with a dollar the best way? thanks for all the input guys,
Jay
Jay
Cornerman said:
I'm just curious, how or what kind of method do you use to select the tips? I mean how do you know which one is good or bad without being actually mount it on the ferrule and hits balls with it?
Thank's
Steve
Cornerman said:
Fred,
Is this also the method you use for choosing a girlfriend????? I've heard of people using your method; but never had any feedback on the results. As for choosing a new car....I think a different method is in order.
Williebetmore said:
Fred,
Oops, I guess your original post was on choosing "tips." My mistake, please ignore my post.
I find it very hard to believe Earl uses elkmaster. If you watch any of his matches the sound his tip makes sounds closer to phenolic, like a pressed sumo tip or some other hard water buffalo tip. Earl also jumps with his playing cue, I don't care how much you press an elkmaster, it's not going to cut it for jumping with a full length cue.Casey said:
"I don't care how much you press an elkmaster, it's not going to cut it for jumping with a full length cue."
i agree...altho a guy in the pool hall will bet anybody, any amount, that he can jump with any cue...he picks up the cue and jumps with it in his hands...some people actuealy fall for it by not saying something like "make a legal jump with any cue?"....that one or laying the cue on the table and make the cue ball roll under it without touching the cue, he rolls it under the table.
i agree...altho a guy in the pool hall will bet anybody, any amount, that he can jump with any cue...he picks up the cue and jumps with it in his hands...some people actuealy fall for it by not saying something like "make a legal jump with any cue?"....that one or laying the cue on the table and make the cue ball roll under it without touching the cue, he rolls it under the table.
I like Elkmasters, but have had the same experience as others - quality inconsistent.
Soaking leather makes it more flexible, so you can mould it into a slightly different shape. So stuff about goat's milk and cow's milk makes sense. (Or as much sense as pool folklore allows)
The other extreme is that drying out leather makes it harder.
Anybody bake Elkmaster tips?
If so, what temperature and for how long?
Soaking leather makes it more flexible, so you can mould it into a slightly different shape. So stuff about goat's milk and cow's milk makes sense. (Or as much sense as pool folklore allows)
The other extreme is that drying out leather makes it harder.
Anybody bake Elkmaster tips?
If so, what temperature and for how long?