Elk Master Tips

Tennesseejoe said:
Many years ago Elk Master, Le Pro, and Champion tips
were the favorite for pool players. Do any/many to players use original
Elk Masters now? Elk Masters compressed?
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Hey Buddy I still use pressed elk master/milk duds and also have a pressed Triangle on a sperate shaft and still to this day love both of them. Hope your well my friend
Jeff
 
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I've long been under the impression that the biggest benefit from using layered tips is that they are far more consistent, tip to tip, than traditional tips. I've heard that some traditional tips come in multipack boxes in which only 10-20% are of sufficient quality for good players, the rest being suitable only for house cues and bangers. (I cannot confirm what I've heard is true, so feel free to enlighten me.)

When traditional tips are compressed and/or "doctored" (e.g., milk duds), how is the consistency from one tip to the next?
 
Tennesseejoe said:
Many years ago Elk Master, Le Pro, and Champion tips
were the favorite for pool players. Do any/many players use original
Elk Masters now? Elk Masters compressed?
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I use pressed LePros on my pool cues. They have the right feel for me, and they're inexpensive.

I use Elk master on my snooker cue, it just feels right and I've tried many layered tips on it without it making any difference to spin etc.
 
Common sense —we refer to some past players such as Greenleaf, Hoppe, Mosconi, Lassiter as “greats” - they used tips made from one piece leather and I guess they worked “ great”
Equipment is far over rated if you don’t have the stroke under pressure and if your stroke delivery is not consistently correct for each and every shot.
Tip hardness is probably 75% of the feel of your cue’s hit. Other than that my opinion is the rest is all in your head - maple, carbon, steel, ivory, layered , not layered- does anyone think it really makes you better- after many years I say - not really - all just personal preference as we add options.
 
Tennesseejoe said:
Many years ago Elk Master, Le Pro, and Champion tips
were the favorite for pool players. Do any/many players use original
Elk Masters now? Elk Masters compressed?
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In my personal opinion as someone who compresses his own tips, Elkmaster aren't being cut from the same quality leather Tweeten has used forever. I believe it's a cheaper cut.
Instead of the tight shoulder sections, they're using the Stomach and under regions. The grain isn't as tight or as numerous as is from the shoulder areas.
I can't seem to get Elkmaster to process like they once did.
I think you'll find Pooldawg8 echoing my sentiments here.
Can't prove anything bcuz Tweeten is unresponsive, but I can't find any other explanation for what's happening with my duds. They really are duds now.
I've switched to le pro and triangle.
Btw... I don't sell my tips.
I make them for other players and friends, as many of you already know who've received my free gift packs.
 
mikemosconi said:
Common sense —we refer to some past players such as Greenleaf, Hoppe, Mosconi, Lassiter as “greats” - they used tips made from one piece leather and I guess they worked “ great”
Equipment is far over rated if you don’t have the stroke under pressure and if your stroke delivery is not consistently correct for each and every shot.
Tip hardness is probably 75% of the feel of your cue’s hit. Other than that my opinion is the rest is all in your head - maple, carbon, steel, ivory, layered , not layered- does anyone think it really makes you better- after many years I say - not really - all just personal preference as we add options.
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Could not Agree More ! Indian Not Arrow.
 
If your making your own milk duds heres the recepe that efren the goat uses. Soak in 2 percent milk foe 48 hrs, should sand bottom of tip a little. You can buy a tip press from Amozon for less than 20.00. Tighten press as tight as you can and leave tip in press for 24 hrs. After this procees is complete leave tip dry for one month before you place on cue . Note, if you are miscueing after application tip needs more drying time. its a lenghty process but worth the wait. Have fun.
 
1sttbone said:
If your making your own milk duds heres the recepe that efren the goat uses. Soak in 2 percent milk foe 48 hrs, should sand bottom of tip a little. You can buy a tip press from Amozon for less than 20.00. Tighten press as tight as you can and leave tip in press for 24 hrs. After this procees is complete leave tip dry for one month before you place on cue . Note, if you are miscueing after application tip needs more drying time. its a lenghty process but worth the wait. Have fun.
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Don't they stink like sour milk???
 
Mensabum said:
In my personal opinion as someone who compresses his own tips, Elkmaster aren't being cut from the same quality leather Tweeten has used forever. I believe it's a cheaper cut.
Instead of the tight shoulder sections, they're using the Stomach and under regions. The grain isn't as tight or as numerous as is from the shoulder areas.
I can't seem to get Elkmaster to process like they once did.
I think you'll find Pooldawg8 echoing my sentiments here.
Can't prove anything bcuz Tweeten is unresponsive, but I can't find any other explanation for what's happening with my duds. They really are duds now.
I've switched to le pro and triangle.
Btw... I don't sell my tips.
I make them for other players and friends, as many of you already know who've received my free gift packs.
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I wanted to 'like' your comment but it is very good information and deserves more. I always liked the old Elk Masters. THANK YOU very much. How may I be on your 'free gift pack' list?
 
1sttbone said:
If your making your own milk duds heres the recepe that efren the goat uses. Soak in 2 percent milk foe 48 hrs, should sand bottom of tip a little. You can buy a tip press from Amozon for less than 20.00. Tighten press as tight as you can and leave tip in press for 24 hrs. After this procees is complete leave tip dry for one month before you place on cue . Note, if you are miscueing after application tip needs more drying time. its a lenghty process but worth the wait. Have fun.
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I use buttermilk instead and let it cure for days atleast 3. Wipe it off after and have it air dry til it's very dry. If I get impatient, I let it dry by putting a fan on it. Then leave it pressed for atleast 48 hours, 3 days at max for me. Hits like a hard tip but spins like a soft tip.
 
1sttbone said:
If your making your own milk duds heres the recepe that efren the goat uses. Soak in 2 percent milk foe 48 hrs, should sand bottom of tip a little. You can buy a tip press from Amozon for less than 20.00. Tighten press as tight as you can and leave tip in press for 24 hrs. After this procees is complete leave tip dry for one month before you place on cue . Note, if you are miscueing after application tip needs more drying time. its a lenghty process but worth the wait. Have fun.My soaking process varies with type of tip and each person's playing style. There are many different ways of doing this.
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I use molds and hydraulic presses. Personally I found 2% to be too watery.
I use a combination of liquids containing caseins and amino acids. L Proline and L lysine are two of my faves.
I did quite a bit of research and came up with my own recipe that penetrates and tightens grain the best along with exact foot pounds (PSI) for different hardness ratings.
This allows me to better tailor my tips for individual playing styles. I don't sell tips. They make great gifts and so far so good.😉
Tennesseejoe said:
I wanted to 'like' your comment but it is very good information and deserves more. I always liked the old Elk Masters. THANK YOU very much. How may I be on your 'free gift pack' list?
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Send me a pm and we'll talk about it Joe.
 
if a certain tip lets you spin more for the same spot on the cue ball you hit, then wouldnt it stand to reason that that tip would be harder to control how much spin you got. so you are less accurate.

and why are you wanting more spin on the cue ball. you want less spin for the distance off center if you think about it.
 
maha said:
if a certain tip lets you spin more for the same spot on the cue ball you hit, then wouldnt it stand to reason that that tip would be harder to control how much spin you got. so you are less accurate.

and why are you wanting more spin on the cue ball. you want less spin for the distance off center if you think about it.
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Thanks for the question. I am 83 yo and do not have the youthful strength any more especially due to a fall that severed shoulder muscles. More spin with less effort is a blessing to me. There are some things I just can not due anymore such as masse shots and jump shots. But I still keep trying to improve. Do you have any suggestions?
 
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